How to start a website...?

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  1. darren

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    It really doesn't matter what platform you have hosting your Web site until you start getting into advanced scripting and stuff. If you're not using ASP, .net or Front Page Extensions, you don't need to have the site hosted on a MS machine. I prefer having my sites hosted on Linux servers (or some other form of Unix) because i feel Unix is inherently more stable and secure, and there are tons of free/open source apps out there.
     
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    See, that's all Greek to me. So Linux or MS doesn't matter? Why the two different platforms, then? And remember.. you're talking to a website-development functional illiterate :lol: (I know a few things about computers, but I'm an absolute n00b to this stuff)
     
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    There are different platforms for the reasons i outlined above. MS and Linux servers each have different capabilities on the back end of things. If you don't know what ASP, .net or Front Page Extensions are, my recommendation would be to go with a Linux host. If you don't need Microsoft, don't use 'em. ;)
     
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    Um... this doesn't tell me what the reasons for the different platforms are, Darren. ;)
     
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    Just get the one that holds the webpages ;p
     
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    :scratch: Huh? "It puts the lotion on its skin." :lol: Dude, what does what you said mean?
     
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    The reasons for different Web hosting platforms are the same reasons we have Windows, Mac OS and Linux (among others) on the desktop. Competition is good. Different programmers have different preferences for programming languages and platforms. Some specialize in ASP and .net development, so they're committed to Microsoft solutions, whereas others are more interested in open platforms and develop in Java, PHP, etc., so they prefer Linux or some other flavour of Unix.

    The Web originated on Unix. Apache on Linux is pretty much the "standard" platform. Microsoft only joined the fray in the late '90s.
     
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    Ah, ok. Thanks Darren! That makes alot of sense. See, I didn't know these asp and .net things at all, (remember- n00b here) and that they are MS uh.. things? What are they, applications? A language? Whatever. So, I'm ignorant.

    But, back to the topic... I guess I should...
    1. Use FrontPage or Dreamweaver, and design a site (or attempt to),
    2. Register the domain, and
    3. Sign up to a host.
    That sound about right? What am I missing? How to I get my website on to the host?
     
  9. Chris D

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    You'll have made your site in, say Dreamweaver, right?

    It will be a nice tidy file structure, with all your html files, image folders etc ready for you to just upload it to your webspace using Dreamweaver's ftp, or some other ftp program.

    As for the server issue, I guess it depends on which provider you go for. I don't know much about that kinda thin, but my webspace is on an Apache server & I've had no problems at all.

    Good luck with your site!
     
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    So, if I'm running a Windows platform, is there any reason I'd want to look into Unix/Linux? I mean, do you have to use the same platform as your operating system? This is all pretty new to me...

    -D
     
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    No, you don't. You don't care what platform it's on.
     
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    Chris, you rock. :)
     
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    I'm saying just get a host. If you're not gonna do any flashy flashy stuff, it doesnt really matter.
     
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    amen! :agreed:
     
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    Chris yes you should learn HTML tags but don't dismiss Dreamweaver It can really simplfy things Plus it comes with several templates . Simply change the text, and a few images and play with the color PRESTO website...

    Dreamweaver 8 rocks Full .css support Awesome wysiwig

    Frontpage is IMO Garbage it adds way too many spurious tags and files (I recently had the displeasure of redesigning a front page created site that had over 1000 files I pared that down to 35 )

    That being said the best/easiest way to learn html is with a nice book
    I learned form this book - way back in the day but it is one of the best HTML books out IMO
    Book

    Viewing the source code of pages is another good way to learn code

    Photoshop is one of the best web building tools
    Create your page layout
    Slice the design
    Save for web - Automatically create tables (or .css) layout

    http://www.w3schools.com/ is a good source of all things web (code wise)
     
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    :agreed:
     
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    It is, in my opinion. They're 'packaging' a lot of shit that's just common webserver featuring.

    $10 for setup - most good ISPs will waive this. It literally takes about 5 minutes of work.
    Account Features

    First, "RAID 10" is actually Raid 1+0. While that's good, anyone selling server space should have fault tolerant rack shit anyhow. And 300MB? That's a pile of crap.

    Here is 2000MB for $10/mo
    Data transfer limit (per month)

    Same site above, 50GB instead of 10.

    Again, wtf?

    Hooray, that's why people go with hosting instead of using Geocities.


    Big deal. If you host a file anywhere you can stream it 99% of the time.

    Hundreds of file formats! Oh, and all these other file formats! Again, that's just fluff. You can host a .fuckyourself file on your website if you want, on any webspace. The "supported" stuff they should be listing are things like PHP, CGI and SQL apps.

    :lol:

    :lol: So you can anonymously FTP to your box? Why the fuck would you want to do that? And 24/7? As opposed to the webhosting that only has your site up during normal business hours?


    Drop that host dude, they suck.
     

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