How do you feel about hemispherical fret ends?

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Do you like having hemispherical fret ends?

  1. yes

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  2. meh, don't really care as long as the fret ends aren't sharp

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  3. no

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  1. KnightBrolaire

    KnightBrolaire despair ahead

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    I was messing around in guitar center a few weeks ago and stumbled across something I'd never seen on ibanezes, hemispherical fret ends (they were ibby premiums btw). The only production guitars I've ever seen this on prior to that were some ESP E-IIs.
    I think it's a great touch that can make guitars feel a lot comfier, just like blind fret slots help mitigate fret end creep.
    I've been working on my personal guitars and builds to put hemispherical fret ends on them since I like the look and the feel of them so much.

    I wish more brands would do hemispherical frets, they look great and feel great when they're done well.
     
  2. MaxOfMetal

    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    I think they're very misunderstood.

    They are but a small part of the puzzle that is great fretwork.

    So they're a great touch to an already great fret job, but won't save a bad fret job.
     
  3. Flappydoodle

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    Love them. Only downside is that the string can slip off the edge of the fret more easily
     
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    KnightBrolaire despair ahead

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    true. It just doesn't seem to be a common feature even on a lot of custom guitars from what I've seen.
     
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    Now, what the hell is a hemispherical fret end? :scratch:
     
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    Probably because it's not really necessary. A really good fretting with well rounded, but not totally semi-hemi, will feel identical in the hand.

    It's partially marketing which has made them so popular, and inflated thier importance.

    All you need is the end rounded in such a way that your fingers don't run into a hard, pointy edge.

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    oh yeah, definitely, I've just found from working on my own guitars that by the time I start rounding off the sharp edges, it gets a bit hemispherical. Nowhere near perfectly so, obviously, but definitely a step up from where it was.
    Here's a squier neck that I practiced on earlier. obviously not the best pic but it's all I took before I sold the neck.
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    here's a warmoth neck I was practicing on as well:
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    It's worth noting, when applying semi-hemi ends to a guitar not originally with them, that you'll need to make sure you don't fret out too easily on the first and last strings. You're removing area from the top of the fret, and that can cause problems of you remove a bit too much. This is especially important on guitars already known for having cramped boards.

    That's actually one of the advantages of not going for the full, circular end. You get a little more room.
     
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    I like them but I prefer rounded ends with a gentle curve more, you can feel less fret end that way but that requires a wide fretboard or more space between the last strings and the fretboard edge.
     
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    Personally, I like the looks if it and the logic behind them makes me think of a better recovery from fretting out, while also reducing string breakage and finger cuts due to sharp fret ends. However, I do agree with @MaxOfMetal on the real advantages to be near to none. For a regular play that doesn't go to the edge of the frets, it becomes meaningless.
     
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    cannot wait for the comments from the members of the "flat fret end society"...
     
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    Wait is this the same thing as ball end frets?
     
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    KnightBrolaire despair ahead

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    yeah basically
     
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    Semi-hemi, ball end, hot dog, J.Custom, tube, etc.

    All names for the same thing.
     
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    To be fair, it is not semi-hemisphere, more like a quarter of it... geometrically speaking...
     
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    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    Floyd Rose tremolos are actually vibratos.

    Us guitarists are terrible at naming things. :lol:
     
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    I prefer a beveled fret with rounded edges. Feels much smoother to my hand. But at long as the rest of the fret work is good I could live with any fret end style
     
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    only tried on Ibanez premiums like you, and it was a big surprise, Ive never expected that from them. They felt amazing. Not sure if its necessary or not, but def was a really good touch that made me think higher of the premium line because of it
     
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    I was definitely not expecting to see it on the premium lineup. They all felt really good, pretty close to or on par with some of the prestiges I tried in the same shop, which is something I never thought I'd utter about a non-mij ibanez.
     

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