Help selecting a new amp

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  1. Panacea224

    Panacea224 SS.org Regular

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    Hi Everyone, I've been searching for a new amp since I decided I wanted a change from my Engl Fireball. I've tried the Randall Satan (like just about everything about it but wish it was more low mid focused), Peavy 6505 (awesome but doesn't get quiet enough for my needs) and the EVH 5150 III 50w. I'm a "bed room" guitar player but don't mind if the amp is 120 watts so long as it meets the following criteria.

    Basically I'm looking for an amp which meets these criteria:
    1. Saturated gain with plenty of lower mids

    2. Can get loud but also sounds good at volumes you can hold a normal conversation over (have a 2 1/2 year old in the next room)

    3. An emulated cab output is a plus for silent recording, but not necessary

    4. I'm not too picky about the character of the gain, I do prefer smoother gain to the grittier variety a little.

    5. I play mostly 7 string in either Drop A or Drop Ab so it needs to be tight for the lower tunings.

    6. Budget: don't really have one, max of $1500 but would prefer under $1000 and don't mind buying used.

    Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!
     
  2. RustInPeace

    RustInPeace SS.org Regular

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    How about the new Mesa Triple Crown 50?
     
  3. CapnForsaggio

    CapnForsaggio Cap'n (general)

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    Peavey 6505 mh and a Mesa 1x12 (and a ISP decimator in the FX loop)

    Has everything you want:

    1) Decent headphones sound with emulated out (and speaker defeat switch)
    2) Selectable wattage 1,5,20
    3) Sounds rad

    * I have this setup btw, and can vouche, it sounds great at low volumes.
     
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    Wolfhorsky Regular idiot

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    Engl Metalmaster?
     
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    rexbinary MOD King Contributor

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    This or a EVH 5150 III LBX in the same configuration as above.
     
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    jc986 Tone Enthusiast Contributor

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    PRS Archon. Comes in 25, 50 & 100 watt varieties. I have the 100 watt and even in the 100 watt mode sounds awesome at very low levels. I never use the 50 watt mode even when practicing quietly because the master volume is so good.
     
  7. Panacea224

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    Thanks for the great suggestions.
     
  8. Panacea224

    Panacea224 SS.org Regular

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    The Archon has definitely caught my interest. Is it as good for modern styles of metal as everyone says? Worth the money in your opinion?

     
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    I just picked up a 6505+. At first I was worried I wouldn't be able to play it at bedroom levels, but it actually does O.K. Sounds totally brutal.
     
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    cwhitey2 BlackendCrust Metalâ„¢

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    This.

    Archon would be my choice if I were you. Can easily nail most metal tones.
     
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    Have you considered going the digital modeller route? Makes a lot of sense, especially for home players.
     
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    Thanks everyone. I have strongly considered a kemper, I just don't know if I'm ready to make the jump yet. I have decent monitors I could play it through.
     
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    AX8 through monitors here. Never going back to real amps. I don't know about other units, but Fractal has it right.
     
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    Maybe a Mesa mark v25 or V35?
     
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    jc986 Tone Enthusiast Contributor

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    Absolutely. It can easily hang with and/or beat just about anything else I've ever played, and I've been through quite a few amps from all the 5150/6505 variants, Rectos, Uberschalls, Diezels, Mark series, etc.
     
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    Interesting. I've listened to some demos of the Archon on YouTube and it sounds awesome. I'm going to have to order one of these and try it out.
     
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    oracles Australian in Canda

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    I was thoroughly underwhelmed by the Archon, it's a well marketed, but ultimately glorified 5150/6505 clone with marginally better cleans. Not worth its price tag at all. I'd buy a 5153 over an Archon every single time. It doesn't hang with the amps in its price point, it gets devoured by them.
     
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    Perhaps something was not right with the one you had? I had the Archon along side a Mark V and while the Mark's clean channel was obviously more versatile, the Archon cleans could be dialed in to pretty near indistinguishable from the Fat mode on the Mark's clean channel. I feel like the Archon's lead channel is pretty solid blend of a 5150 variant, Recto, and an Uber that ends up sounding pretty unique...at least through my setup. One thing I do usually see is everyone is always playing the Archon with the bright switch engaged, which can add a fizzy quality akin to the 5150 series. I usually run mine with the bright off and dial in the bite with more presence/treble and sometimes boost it with my SD 805.

    Or perhaps our tastes are just opposite, as I was completely underwhelmed by the 5153. I really tried to like it (owned one for about 8 months) but thought the cleans were sterile and lifeless and that the gain channels were just overly processed, tamer versions of the 5150/5150 II.
     
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    Don't listen to this guy.
     
  20. Descent

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    Why not one of each? Get yourself a little 6505 for the home front and something bigger for the stage, maybe a 6505 used head. For the money of some of the other amps suggested that could be a good compromise.

    Out of the above suggestions - I like the Mesa options, all of them (Mark V, the TC-50). Maybe look into Orange Rockerverb as that has several low wattage switches.
     

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