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Discussion in 'Member Introductions' started by ChrisH, May 6, 2014.

  1. 7stg

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    I prefer the bridge to be closer to the end of the body too, especially on longer scaled guitars.

    I also prefer the bridge pickup to be very close to the bridge. Having it that way stock saves me from having to get out the router to rout to within 1/4 inch of the bridge and make a pickup ring to cover the enlarged cavity that's large enough to please an olympic distance swimmer when filled with water once I'm done with it.
     
  2. ChrisH

    ChrisH Kiesel Specialist

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    We are considering more inlay options but it will be a while before we potentially get around to those (still a maybe). Got a few other new models coming out before we get on the smaller options ;)

    Fair enough! I don't think you're a terrible customer at all! When it comes down to it, we all have our own tastes and preferences. I feel people shouldn't be "stuck" when it comes down to getting a guitar that they want. I'm all for having more options! What I would say is send a message or post something on Jeff Kiesel's facebook page so that he can see that there is a demand for it cuz you never know!

    There are a few reasons why we didn't go with the Kahler. One, I believe Jason himself specified that he liked the Floyd better. Two, our neck angles have changed since the original 80's Carvins so as is they are not compatible with a Kahler even if you were to install one yourself. There isn't enough string down force with the Kahler at the current neck configuration. In order to get a Kahler installed on our guitars nowadays you need to route out a deeper pocket so that the Kahler can sit deeper into the body and have the down force required. Three, the general consensus at the factory is that the OFR provides better tuning stability and tone which the majority tends to lean towards anyways. That aside, I personally own many 80's Carvins with Kahler trems and I love em. I would love to see it as an option but it's just not in the cards right now.

    Just to geek out on the JB some more (he's one of my heroes and I love talking about old Carvins), another difference from Jason's original DC200 and the JB200 is that the new tribute does not come standard with stereo outputs. The original DC200 came with that as a stock option. Jason never really used it and most our customers don't request it anymore so we decided not to put it on there on the tribute. The headstock shape is different, the old '88-'89 Carvins had the Jackson style straight pointy while the newer pointy is a reissue of the '90-'91 pointy headstock. The standard wood option is Alder/Maple for body and neck but his original was Maple/Maple which was standard on all Carvin guitars (except for the DC400) until around 1990 when we changed the standard wood option to Poplar/Maple for a few years before we settled on Alder/Maple. Cool stuff right? Haha, at least I think it's cool! :cool:

    I know the feel, I've brought it up a few times too. We'll see what we do with those, that all falls under the "inlays and things" request and we may or may not get around to doing something. A lot of people either don't mind or actually like em that way so we'll see.

    That is definitely something for Jeff's wall, you never know what he might agree to!
     
  3. OmegaSlayer

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    Pretty much on point :)
    Thanks.
    I would love to collect signatures and I would have loved a 1:1 version of the JB because he's a HERO (I purposedly avoided the my, yours, etc :lol: ) in music and life.
    Sure I'd like your current version anyway, but I need da money...much more because I'm not in the US.

    Thanks again for the passionate and honest reply :)
     
  4. ChrisH

    ChrisH Kiesel Specialist

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    No problem, that's what I'm here for! I wish we could do a 1:1 version myself. I'd be ALL OVER that guitar like no one's business. Maybe when I have some extra money I'll ask Jeff if he can do one for me haha

    By the way, any of you Jason Becker fans see what Jeff Kiesel posted on his instagram yesterday? ;)
     
  5. ChrisH

    ChrisH Kiesel Specialist

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    In case you haven't seen it yet.

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  6. Suho

    Suho Guitar Guardian Contributor

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    I got lucky with my DC727 build in that it took about exactly 5 weeks (non-rush order) from order to delivery. I ordered on Black Friday and got it right after the new year. But I am guessing that part of that was because it was a fairly simple build in terms of options. It is a walnut neck and body, tung oil finish, and pretty much the only other option was the stainless steel jumbo frets and rosewood knobs. It's a keeper. (only change I made was to add BKP Warpigs).

    I never get tired of posting pics of it!:
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  7. CGrant109

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    Hey Chris!

    Very cool to see Carvin members on here.:yesway: Our guitarist Austin uses a custom 7 string Carvin for our instrumental band, Outrun the Sunlight. I suggest giving us a listen, I think we're what you're into!
    https://www.facebook.com/outrunthesunlight

    -Connor
     
  8. Black Mamba

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    Oh man, a numbers tribute guitar would be beyond awesome!
     
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    Awesome info man. My v220 has the straight letters and all. I need to fill a few finish chips, refret, and re-nut it to get it my liking. Was the paint on the late 80s carvins laquer or poly?
     
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    You say that but mine took 5-6 weeks on a non-rush build. I ordered mine end of September and got it first week in November even though my card gave me a bit longer than that. I think the real trick is to not order one when tax returns come in.

    That aside, I don't think the complexity of the order matters unless you're doing option 50s. I think most parts of the build can be done in a couple of weeks if you have people constantly doing work on them and they aren't sitting idle in a queue. I'm pretty sure the part that takes the longest is when Carvin puts the necks in the oven for 3 weeks. After that it's just based on how many orders they have coming through the pipeline. Take a look at mine. It's got a bit more going on than yours:

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  11. Suho

    Suho Guitar Guardian Contributor

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    I guess I figured holiday time probably gets a lot of orders too, plus there are a number of days in and around Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's Day/Eve that I doubt many folks are working. Nice guitar!
     
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    Hey there Chris I was curious if Carvin ever has any plans to expand the online guitar builder to add a visual aspect like a few other companies have? (Jackson, Halo and Warmoth being good examples)

    Also i'm interested in ordering a SCb6 (probably at the end of summer) and I was wondering if its possible to get one with the holdsworth headstock? and if so does that take me into option 50 territory?

    thanx :)
     
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    So there's a new 7 string model coming out soon, and you guys have Jason's original Peavey numbers guitar at the shop. Can I put 2 and 2 together? Am I about to be ordering a 7 string Becker numbers guitar? Talk to me, Goose!
     
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    ChrisH,

    Just wanted to quickly say hello as well. The first nice guitar I ever bought myself was a DC400TA back in 2003. I worked part time during high school bussing tables to afford a nice guitar, and it's the only guitar I've kept the past 11 years.
     
  15. ChrisH

    ChrisH Kiesel Specialist

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    That's an awesome looking guitar!!! Sometimes we can pump out the guitars fairly quickly depending on the time of year. For instance, right now we are over 700 orders taken so the average wait time is close to 9 weeks. All the tax return orders, post-NAMM orders, as well as increased interest due to various new models we've had a huge influx of people ordering guitars. Your guitar is gorgeous, keep posting those pics whenever you can! haha

    That's really cool stuff! My speakers here at work are crap so I'll give those songs a proper listen when I get home. Definitely something I'm into!

    Wouldn't it be? ;)

    As far as I know we used poly back then. I think it was PPG which is automotive paint.

    The neck point is a good one. We actually added onto our neck treatment within the past year so it makes for a slightly longer build. We kiln dry our wood before we cut the blanks, then after it is cut we heat treat them for 3 weeks regardless if they are a single piece or 5 piece. These are newer procedures and further add to the strength and stability of our necks which make them superior to our products from as soon as 2 years ago. No neck is precut and left sitting until it is ordered, we cut everything to order which is something we didn't do maybe 10 years ago. Since we are always looking for ways to make the process more efficient and up the quality on our guitars our methods will continue to improve.

    Because of this new process, the build times have gone up just a little bit on top of all the orders post-NAMM and beyond.

    Christmas/Winter NAMM and Tax Return season are times that we get the most orders. It gets pretty crazy sometimes!

    We used to have one back in the early 2000s. The reason we stopped doing it and don't offer it today is because we are constantly adding and changing options. With the amount of options that we offer compared to other builders (with over 250,000 different ways you can customize a guitar without building the same one twice) it would be a programming nightmare especially with our limited staff. Keep in mind we are still a small company compared to other guitar companies so we don't have the time or resources to invest in such a massive undertaking. There are a few people on the Carvin forums who would love to do a photoshop mock up for you, this is the most popular way of envisioning builds if you have some time to spare on the BBS.

    Carvin.com BBS :: Index

    In this case 2 and 2 equals 5. Not quite there, but close enough. The new 7 string model will be announced shortly but it will not be a 7 string numbers guitar. Now for the numbers guitar.... :cool:

    Awesome to hear! Do you have any pictures you can show me? My first Carvin was an early DC400, the first nice guitar I ever owned as well!
     
  16. MetalDaze

    MetalDaze Repless in Seattle

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    Lefties love Carvin. My first "nice" guitar was a DC145 that I ordered in 89, but received in 90. Since it was a transition year, I ended up with a maple body and OFR, but the new headstock for 90. It was my main guitar for a long time. A few years back, I decided it needed a new paint job:

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    On another note....why no lefties for the V220 or Ultra V? PM me if you guys are willing to make a lefty X220 :D:D:D
     
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    How do you like the Warpigs with the walnut body/neck? Almost like my Dc727 :hbang:
     
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    Welcome Chris. I've been gigging my Legacy 1 since 1999, when they 1st came out I believe. I love my Legacy, it 'effin rules!!!!

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    Since I had fallen so deeply in love with my Legacy, I had to try one of Carvin's guitars, especially because I'm lefty. I bought a ST300 that sounds phenomenal throught my Legacy, actually all my guitars sound amazing through the Legacy!!!
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  19. ChrisH

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    Oh man, I am liking that color! ^

    And yeah, we haven't made a left V style guitar (officially). Unofficially we have made some one offs 30 years ago when we did everything by hand and not by CNC machine. This was rare though, only under rare circumstance this was done. I remember seeing a lefty X220 on ebay back in 2012, who knows how many of those were made.

    With everything going through the CNC machines, we have no way to make that guitar in a lefty while not compromising the control cavity layout and would have to reprogram everything from the ground up. Also, we use form fitted cases for the V series and have no cases that would fit a lefty at all. As a company we pride ourselves in offering pretty much every single model in left handed versions without charging extra, but in this case it is the one exception to that rule. Out of all the models, we don't get very many people asking for lefty Vs (maybe a couple of people a year) so the demand isn't that high for them for southpaws even though the right handed players seem to like them just fine.

    But again, Jeff might like to hear this if you post it on his facebook page.

    Thanks guys!
     
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    Sweet, more locals !
     

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