Headless Agile?

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  1. Randy

    Randy ROOMFORYOUROOMFORYOUROOMFORYOU Super Moderator

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    Was thinking about this today, with regard to the Steinberger M series poll and then the mention of the Hohner and Spirit brands.

    Obviously there's no practical way of replacing the TransTrem with anything Kurt can get his hands on but considering there are zero options in the way of headless guitars (beside Steins and customs) and even less for anybody on a budget, it's an idea. I was considering building a headless guitar myself and noticed there are a lot of companies that sell hardware that'd work on one, and besides, Kurt has access to having stuff machined.

    I'm guessing the graphite neck thing would be close to impossible (although, depending on the price-tag, maybe be an option?) but even if the initial release was closer to the Spirits in the way of making it out of traditional materials to keep down cost, that's a start. I'm sure that's a deal breaker for a lot of people but it might be the only practical way of getting this off the ground.

    Ideas, folks?

    UPDATE 7-1-2010

    E-mail from Kurt:

     
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    PnKnG Banned

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    I would love a Agile Headless.
    I really want one but here in Sweden there is nearly no chance to come across on got a good price.
    I have to say that I actually prefer a Spirit like one made out of wood.
    If Kurt would build them I would sure as hell buy one :D
     
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    I think its a great idea. I've had GAS for a headless for a while. I think Kurt is the guy who could pump out some quality, but cost effective headless guits. Traditional materials wouldn't really kill it for me. But, I think the hardware for a headless could really drive the price up.
     
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    OMG A headless 9 string Kahler equipped Intrepid would pretty much go down in history as the coolest guitar of all time. :lol:
     
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    It all depends on what hardware you want.
    Here for example is a fixed version and the head piece that are not priced too bad and I bet since Kurt would buy in bulges that he would get them cheaper:
    JCUSTOM FX-BRIDGE - eBay (item 110480368299 end time Jul-10-10 19:48:56 PDT)
    Combined Headpiece and String Adaptor for Steinberger - eBay (item 110471642379 end time Jul-16-10 13:42:20 PDT)
     
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    pink freud SS.org Regular

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    7 and ERG headless would indeed be win. I already have a headless sixer.
     
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    Randy ROOMFORYOUROOMFORYOUROOMFORYOU Super Moderator

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    My passion really is for a headless ERG, but I figured since it'd take going out on a limb to produce in the first place, he'd want something with a more widespread appeal. If things go as I anticipate, however, we'd probably be able to get 7's eventually. :evil:

    EDIT: Also, if he ends up going with existing hardware, then a 6'er would be pretty easy but there's not much (if any) companies producing 7's, 8's, etc. yet.
     
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    oddly enough I've been designing a Headless Agile for a couple weeks now.

    In my imagining we'd use single string bridge/tuners. This way its all modular so agile could build a headless with any number of strings and even fanned frets. I haven't finished fully mocking them up but of course once I do I'll post them here asap.
     
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    DO IT :scream:
     
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    Randy ROOMFORYOUROOMFORYOUROOMFORYOU Super Moderator

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    Sounds like a great plan. Any idea what the next step would be? I'd imagine somebody should message Kurt and take his pulse in the idea... that way we know what information to gather, polls to take, etc.
     
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    failshredder hammer every cock

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    I would say we wait until Justin has finished the mock-up and then we shoot Kurt a message ;)
     
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    Lets see how many people are interested, I'll finish the mockups a soon as I can, and then we can get a dialog going with kurt. I think the possibility of headless 7s (and 8s and 6s of course) is something a lot of peolple would be interested in.

    As far as designs go I'll probably be utilizing the basic sceptor body shape, as well as maybe something of my own design, and then we can gauge interest off those.
     
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    Randy ROOMFORYOUROOMFORYOUROOMFORYOU Super Moderator

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    Sounds very practical.
     
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    A headless 7 that could use Stein's double ball end strings is my DREAM guitar. The second I see an Agile like that, all of my money is going towards it.
     
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    Randy ROOMFORYOUROOMFORYOUROOMFORYOU Super Moderator

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    Oh, another question... are we going for the Steiny style cutout on the butt end of it? I'd much prefer that, as to keep the vibe of the original guitar but I'm not sure how much legal leeway we're we can keep open?
     
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    failshredder hammer every cock

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    Nah, fuck that.

    I do want a trem, though. :p
     
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    Randy ROOMFORYOUROOMFORYOUROOMFORYOU Super Moderator

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    Well, the issue becomes if you use anything resembling a TransTrem or any variant, it's not really optional because of the added access you need for the tuners. I've seen a few headless trems that don't require a big cutout on the butt (such as the Floyd Rose models) but they're in the minority.
     
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    failshredder hammer every cock

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    Yes. Use the Floyd speedloaders. Brilliant (except for the cost).
     
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    I would actually prefer the cutout at the butt end of the guitar. Its part of the bodyshape that make them appeal so much to me.
     

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