Good choice for Romney?

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  1. TRENCHLORD

    TRENCHLORD Banned

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    I think so.

    They need someone sharp and edgy, so he's probably the best choice of the bunch.
    Rubio might have gotten them Florida, without which the election is over and Obama wins again.
    I can't wait to watch the Ryan vs Biden dabate. It won't make much difference to the eventual election result, but it will be some good laughs :lol:.

    These guys could pass as father and son. It's just feels so, "right" (p.i.).
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    Obeezy's gonna smash these clowns.........

    Now if we could get a REAL secular socialist liberal in there (and a few dozen in congress), we could actually fix some of the problems wrought by 30+ years of corporate-religious-GOP insanity.
     
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    Yeah, lets work real hard to be like Cuba :lol:, and get our budget lined out just like Greece.
     
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    lurgar SS.org Regular

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    Not like my father would vote GOP anyways, but he's literally just now getting onto medicare this month and Ryan wants to get rid of it entirely.
     
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    well getting rid of, and privatizing are two completely different things. anyways his plan did change a little as he worked the medicare angle to more palatable

    Forbes broke down his plan as it stands today: http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/20...proved-plan-for-medicare-and-medicaid-reform/
    i like Ryan. i just like him in the house more.... but ehhh whatever. he was bound to run eventually
     
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    Ryan's plan might be the only current proposal that will spare many of the nescesary social spending programs, because left to status quo they are going right down the ole septic tank.
     
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    Just from an aesthetic stand point he LOOKS like the right choice:lol: They seriously look like they are related or something.

    I don't know very much about Ryan's politics however so I can't say how I feel about it with much confidence. All I can say is that I don't want Obama in office again.
     
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    TemjinStrife Power Metal Cellist

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    Your username is quite apt here :lol:

    Ryan just cements Romney as "more of the same." It's not going to change my vote (in fact, it has the opposite effect) but I'm not the target audience.

    Simplified, albeit apt:

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    Just to be clear, I don't really care what his policies are like.:lol: I'm still not voting for Obama.
     
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    Paul Ryan on the Issues

    This guy is completely anti-progress in anything. He is the manifestation of the philosophy of Ayn Rand, only focusing on the individual no matter the cost to society.

    It's certainly not going to help Romney in appealing to a wider audience. Ryan is about as far right as you can get. Moderates and 3rd party voters will not be swayed by this, most likely just pushed even farther away.
     
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    I think the Ryan selection is Romney's way of saying "Hey. Remember that crazy primary season where everyone said I wasn't conservative? Well, look at this. I've literally got the poster boy for the Tea Party on my side now. You really should vote for me, 'cause I'm conservative with a capital 'C' now! Really."
     
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    It seems you are not oversimplifying, but in fact just not accurate.

    Deciding that TAKING all the money from the people isn't a good idea IS NOT the same as giving money to the rich.

    If any money was given to the rich (which that would be a first), it would have to be their own money just being "given" back to them.

    50% of the folks pay NOTHING as is. That's 0% for those fuzzy at math.
    http://ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html
    We need to flat tax so that this class warfare jelousy crap ends.
     
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    Which is more important: making sure that nobody is jealous of anybody or fixing the economy? Flat tax, trickle down effect, Reganomics: these things are all proven not to work. Again, look at the UK, and look at Australia. One did the cutting tax and spending thing your Tea Party is so enthusiastic about, t'other increased spending and taxes like it's 1984.* Which one is in a double dip recession and which one is doing fine?



    *Obviously it's not like 1984, but I have had someone compare universal healthcare to 1984 on this forum, so I thought I'd spell it out.
     
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    I do miss this guy.
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    I don't want to derail your discussion, but unlike what most people think of Greece's financial problems they didn't come from a socialist government (which never was the case anyway). It was backhanded deals, squandering public wealth for personal profit, buying votes by making more public servants than required, buying an unsettling amount of weapons in triple value while being "part" of the European Union that filled the pocket of Greek politicians and the our good friends the NATO allies (yes I am Greek).
    Now what does that remind you? (wink wink nudge nudge, say no more!)

    End rant and please continue your discussion :)!
     
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    He plans on turning it into a voucher plan that allows people to choose from insurance plans, which adds competition and thusly lowering the price for everyone..
     
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    I agree completely.
    Those are the assured problems that occur everytime that a nation starts letting the government assume more power over the GDP (by over-regulating/taxing private commerce)
     
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    Except the voucher plan doesn't increase along with the cost for healthcare like the current system does, which means that the program becomes much less effective.
     
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    Also, there are no words for how terrible, impossible, and plain idiotic Herman Cain's tax plan was :lol:
     
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    I agree.

    Flat tax on all income from any source, period. No deductions for anything, ever. None of this bullshit with rich people paying less in % than middle class people. If you make $1 billion, you now owe the government $250 million no matter what the fuck you do with the money or how you got it. No hiding it in some corporation or international account.
     

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