Father beats child molester to death

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  1. matt397

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    If someone is attacking a 4 year old girl, and your own daughter at that, you beat the motherfucker's head in until he's no threat- you don't check his pulse after each whack to make sure you haven't taken it too far.

    I found the "execution" comment a bit interesting, how do we know that there was a point available to the father to stop? What if there was no in between, the last blow being the one that removed the threat but also cost the molester his life.

    If these are the facts then I'm on the father's side 100%
     
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    I'm largely a pacifist and I probably would've done the same, nor do I take much issue with this.
     
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    I'm torn.
    On one side the fact that there are few characters more reviled than the child-molester, on the other side I am not comfortable with people taking the law into their own hand and appoint themselves excecutioners. If we start allowing mob-rule it could set a dangerous precedent, you can't bring people back from the dead if you mobbed the wrong person to death.

    I guess it is the same cunundrum as the death penalty.. Do we want to put lives into the hands of fallible people, especially a man as this guy..

    Mind, I have no qualms about beating him up, I would probably have done so myself, but I don't think we should kill each other.
     
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    I doubt the father intended to kill the guy. People don't realize how easy it is to kill someone with a blow to the head. The father probably just reacted on an instinctual level to protect his daughter and hit the guy until he stopped being a threat.

    That being said, were it me...I'd have intended to kill him. I don't care about punishment or justice, I care about protecting the safety of my family. When that safety is threatened, I fully intend to proceed with lethal force as that's the only sure way of removing the immediate threat. Luckily, defense of a third person with lethal force is justifiable in the US in all states (as far as I know, and I know it is in Texas for a fact) so this man probably won't go to jail.
     
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    This is an interesting case. I'm all for non violence, but if i was in the same situation I can't say I wouldn't have done the same. As far as the fathers guilt, well it hard to say. While I don't think it was right for him to kill another person I can only imagine the blind rage that must have over taken him upon seeing what he saw. Its possible that he may not have been aware of just how hard he was hitting the victim.
     
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    skeels ..to pay the beels

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    I find it entirely plausible that the father could have been so overcome with rage that he momentarily blacked out. I know that isn't something that has been suggested but I'm throwing it out there. I mean, just imagine, YOUR 4 year old daughter is being molested (or attempted to be molested) right in front of you by a man you supposedly know. Obviously there would be some trust built up as well since the dead man was allowed on the property to tend to the horses. It's a massive breach of trust and it just comes down to one thing: The dude tried to molest your daughter. If I was in that situation I guarantee I would not be able to control my actions due to anger. This father did what any father would do, I believe.
     
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    In a situation like that I think that part of the brain that dictates right from wrong and self control would turn off temporarily. If he beat him within an inch of his life then strung em up in a tree in his front yard then yeah I guess I could see on some level that that would be considered "wrong" ( :rant: ) but the guy saw what he saw and defended his young. I'd be quite disappointed if he ends up serving any kind of time for this.
     
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    It take less than a single PSI (apparently only about .3-.5 PSI) to kill someone with a strike to the temple. That's ridiculously easy for anyone to do on accident and is the most likely cause of the assailant's demise based on the minimal information we have.

    I agree there was likely a blind rage component, but stopping short of killing someone is not something that anyone but a trained fighter is really able to do.
     
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    How do they know theguy was really a child molester?
     
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    The father walked in on the assailant in the act of violating his 4 year old daughter, so he was directly protecting her safety.
     
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    Yeah, I dont blame him but how do we know hes not lying? I think its important to note who the victim was
     
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    If what the father says is true, I believe the killing is "justified". He is protecting his family, his daughter, from quite possibly the worst thing imaginable. I don't have children but the thought of the situation makes me feel that no amount force is excessive force in something like that....

    ..If its true.
     
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    We don't know he wasn't lying, but that's not how the justice system works. Can we prove he wasn't lying? Probably not... but the girl was treated at a hospital, ergo she would have been examined and the doctor can verify that she was assaulted. Fluids and fibers will bear out that it was either the assailant (or in a case of terribly shitty coverup job on the part of the father) the father.

    The justice system works on what can be proven, or at least what theory can be supported by available evidence that a jury must agree is the most likely scenario.
     
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    Probably didn't mean to kill dude, but if you fuck little kids you're kinda asking for *someone* to fuck you up. :2c:
     
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    First thing I saw: "FoxNews.com"
    Second thing I saw: "... allegedly caught..."

    :shrug:

    Hadn't previously considered that the guy might not be a pedo, but I'd like to think you're right and the doctors/investigators can be trusted.
     
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    I can tell you if I saw someone molesting ANY child I'd grab a crowbar and there'd be no stopping me. Child molestation is one of the most disgusting worst single person crimes in existence IMO. (In other words excluding acts of terrorism, etc.)

    No one will ever touch my children or nieces/nephews or cousins and live to brag about it tomorrow. Is that too far maybe, but it is a horrid crime and molesters are repeat offenders 9/10.

    Mind you for this particular case he got what he deserved if this was the truth and not blown out of proportion, but I still stand by my statement that if I had indisutable proof or even witnessed said act the above would happen.
     
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    How anyone can judge someone on how they act in that situation is beyond me. I'd go apeshit if I saw any child molested, let alone my own kid. I can't comprehend what it must be like to witness that, and protecting your child in such a situation is human nature.
     
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    No worries, I didn't actually look at the link here as I saw it on reddit a couple of hours ago and it had a more detailed report.
     

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