Explosions at Boston Marathon

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by synrgy, Apr 15, 2013.

  1. flint757

    flint757 SS.org Regular

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    There are some interesting points, but about half is BS and that half raises flags about the validity of the other half. Also, it's hard to take someone seriously when they use memes to prove/make a point.

    If Seal teams were definitely on scene I doubt they'd be wearing hats with their logo on it too. :shrug: And these people did a lot of damage so I'm not shocked by the outlandish manhunt. I love how they point to a random guy in a photo with nothing that would identify him as a fed and say "Why is this fed tracking him?". Then they show the Donna photo which has been proven false if I'm not mistaken (like the 8 year old NOT from Sandy Hook). I think the most disgusting part about that conspiracy is that it indirectly insinuates that the Sandy Hook massacre was also a conspiracy. What the hell is wrong with people?
     
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    Jakke Pretty wisdomous

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    There has been reports that the National Guard were on the scene, so it might have been them. It makes much more sense that a military outfit there as observers would wear casual uniform, rather than the ZOMG SECRET CONSPIRACY FALSE-FLAG OPERATIVES would be stupid enough to not wear proper clothes.
     
  3. MF_Kitten

    MF_Kitten Set up us the bomb

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    Yeah, last time that happened two deeply religious brothers went on a killing streak that left Boston littered with dead bodies. Not sure how that whole comparison really works out...
     
  4. Randy

    Randy Ooh, Degrasse Tyson-son Super Moderator

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    Just looks like a couple of meathead, paramilitary fanboys.

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    Jakke Pretty wisdomous

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  6. Chickenhawk

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    I questioned why Craft International was there (before 4chan picked it up and made it a ZOMG FALSE FLAG thing). It was worth looking into, considering their usual activities. They don't do security for things like this...usually.

    But, I put it to rest in my mind fairly quickly. They're staffed by Veterans of some pretty no-bullshit level Special Operations units...guys that sure as fuck wouldn't blow up a bunch of civilians for some half-assed political gain, like the wackjobs and neckbeards are insinuating.

    Maybe business is slowing down. I'm sure it is, with Iraq pretty much over, and the contracts in Afghan being shuffled around to bigger companies that'll go pretty far out of their way to please the issuing agency. So they needed a quick contract to keep guys employed. Makes sense to me.

    I'm not usually the first person to believe the official statement regarding any major event, but I don't doubt that the Tsarnaev brothers did this. My skepticism has been directed towards Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi, why nobody will talk about him, and why was he immediately a 'person of interest', then everybody shut up about him and they tried to shoo him off back to Saudi...all the while he's been living in Boston, with a student visa to study in Ohio, and the FBI has been keeping tabs on him...and allowing him to go against the stipulations of his visa.

    But, it might be paranoia, or tinfoil-hatery, I dunno. I'd like to hear more about him, though. And I'd love to know more about what the FBI had been doing with the Tsarnaev brothers in the past couple of years.

    tl;dr I don't trust what the FBI says. I never have. Learned a hard lesson about acronym agencies when I was in Iraq: They lie their fucking asses off...all the time...for no goddamned reason.

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    Has anybody ever proved that the picture of the older brother in the hospital (dead) is real? It looks fake as hell (at least the giant gash in his side), and seems ridiculous considering one of the 'official' statements is that they had him strip naked before detaining him...and he walked under his own power while in cuffs (just like the picture above it shows).

    Too much wrong information. Social media and the internet can be extremely helpful things...but photoshop and the hordes of jackasses on 4chan and Reddit are very effective in misleading people.
     
  7. Overtone

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    *why nobody will talk about him
    -the story has moved past the point of possible suspects and into 1 dead and one captured suspect.
    *why was he immediately a 'person of interest',
    -he's from Saudi Arabia and a Muslim
    *then everybody shut up about him
    -police cleared up that he was not in custody and not a suspect. meanwhile they already have the backlash of wrongfully fingering 2 other young, tan, Muslim Arabs.
    *and they tried to shoo him off back to Saudi...all the while he's been living in Boston, with a student visa to study in Ohio, and the FBI has been keeping tabs on him...and allowing him to go against the stipulations of his visa.
    -all speculation... no definitive proof anybody has attempted to deport him and Beck gave zero proof that his file actually contained those codes he mentioned. He could have transferred colleges. He could also have an apt. in Boston because he is rich and has friends/family in that area... those kind of people tend to have their own place anywhere they might frequently go.

    strange circumstances perhaps but I put the burden on YOU to say what wrong this person has done and why he should be suspected. Perhaps you have reason to be suspicious of how he was treated, but why are you suspicious of him?
     
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    How many foreign nationals were at the marathon?
     
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    Hundreds if not thousands. Your point? If you are confident it was the brothers in the news then how does this guy fit in?
     
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    Guys to make myself clear, I am not defending anyone or anything, I just post what I found on the net. That is all, I just want serenity and peace in the world.
     
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    That was my first reaction to all this too... it made me stop for a moment and "Imagine" (yes that song came on the radio) what peace really means. It is something we don't dream of nearly enough.
     
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    EDIT: I was being shitty. Nevermind.



    :lol: Great song, btw.
     
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    That's a surgery they performed on him to try and operate on him. I'm not sure what its called but its when they take a huge clamp and open the rib cage to operate. His lungs were filling with blood when he died if I remember correctly. The reason the gash looks like that is because he wasn't sewn back up and he has entered rigamortis.

    Btw I'm not too excited about people calling this a conspiracy. I grew up a few towns over from Newtown and I live in Boston. I know people who died or were injured or otherwise effected by these tragedies. People seem to think Big brother's out to dup everyone, calling those who think otherwise sheep. It seems to me the "sheep" are those of your who lack any faith in your goverment and believe they're out to get you because of reddit posts and youtube videos. Seeing one thing that brings the situation into question and then running towards the belief that it must be a fabricated event. It's interesting to question but there are people actually denying these people were kidded or injured and it makes me sick. There's a website that tries to disprove that the man who suffered a dual leg lose was faking it. It's fucking sick.

    I understand some doubt in some of the events but to believe its all a "setup to install a totalitarian nazi fascist communist Marxist government" is ridiculous guys. It always makes me laugh when people say stuff like that especially since Nazi's sought out the JEWISH communists (since don't for Karl Marx was a Jewish man) and killed them. The Nazi's may have called themselves the National Socialist Party, but they were in fact fascists. They're opposing ideologies.

    I have a lot more to say about this madness but I feel that our thought should be with the victims of both tragedies and not trying to disprove their suffering.
     
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    yes, because that post was serious. :rolleyes:
     
  15. MF_Kitten

    MF_Kitten Set up us the bomb

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    yes, because my post was serious. :rolleyes:
     
  16. hairychris

    hairychris Hairy Old Bloke

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    OK, plot has been lost here.

    Bomber has been charged with "Using Weapons of Mass Destruction"....

    Dzhokhar Tsarnaev charged over Boston bombing 

    The legal shark has officially been jumped.

    Home made (and, ultimately pretty shit) bombs are not nice, and I have utmost sympathy for the victims but since when, under any circumstances, has a fucking pressure cooker been a WMD?

    If this stands then you USers are fucked, good and proper. Think about the implications. I dare you.
     
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    mcd stuff and thangs

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    I've seen pressure cooker IEDS take out armored vehicles, and more than one at a time. So what exactly is your point? Is it the definition of Mass Destruction? or the Definition of Weapon?
     
  18. tacotiklah

    tacotiklah I am Denko (´・ω・`)

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    Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out where the fuck they got WMDs from? Who is the prosecuting attorney, George W Bush? :scratch:

    They keep using that phrase; I do not think it means what they think it means:
    Weapon of mass destruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Unless the brothers used mustard gas, anthrax, or radioactive substances in the bombs; I just don't see how on earth this could have been a WMD attack...
     
  19. hairychris

    hairychris Hairy Old Bloke

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    Yeah, so Iraq was invaded over pressure-cooker bombs and other shit that the locals could throw together.

    Problematic definition of WMD. In the good/bad old days it was a single weapon that could kill at hundreds, if not thousands.... NBC, basically. Arguable Fuel/Air and incendiary, but only big ones. WMD puts pressure cookers in the same bracket as Anthrax bombs and multi-warhead ICBMs. Really?

    I have no doubt that HE IEDs (which the Boston bombs were not) are nasty things, just not WMDs.

    Now, they may have done this to get him on a Fed death penalty, which has other implications.

    EDIT: Are you military/ex-military? OK then, every time you fired an artillery piece, you fired a WMD by this definition. And mortar. And shell from a tank's cannon. 500lb smart bomb on to insurgents? Got it? We must be consistent if we start applying definitions like this otherwise we'll just be making shit up as we go along.
     
  20. hairychris

    hairychris Hairy Old Bloke

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    Oh, and any lawyer worth the name should get that particular charge thrown out because of their shitty definition.

    Charge him on murder, attempted, and whatever else. I am not minimising that aspect of it. WMD is bullshit.
     

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