EVH 5150 III mini vs Laney Ironheart 120 vs Peavey 6505+ vs Blackstar HT 100 Metal

Discussion in 'Beginners/FAQ' started by metalguy2013, Oct 24, 2013.

Which is the best option?

Poll closed Jan 22, 2014.
  1. EVH 5150 III 50 watts (mini)

    26 vote(s)
    56.5%
  2. Laney Ironheart 120watts

    3 vote(s)
    6.5%
  3. Peavey 6505

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Peavey 6534+

    3 vote(s)
    6.5%
  5. Peavey 6505+

    9 vote(s)
    19.6%
  6. Blackstar HT 100 Metal

    5 vote(s)
    10.9%
  1. metalguy2013

    metalguy2013 SS.org Regular

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    Hi, I want this type of distortion. What say me people?

     
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    I'm pretty sure all of these amps will get you that kind of distortion, what else do you play (to narrow down your choice).
     
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    They will all give you that sound...my vote is for the laney.
     
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    Laney Ironheart loaded with EL34s or the 6534+.
     
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    Well man, I love the modern tones more that other thing. I'm looking a head with that type of distortion, but I want something professional and a head with a decent clean, but, the clean not is very important for me like the distortion, but I not want a blues clean, I want a jazz clean if this is possible. I play in my band, rock/metal modern and some soft things. I want a head with MUCH headroom (that sound FULLER, KILLER, A MONSTER HEAD).
     
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    Well, if you want lots of headroom, you'd want something with kt88s like a Splawn Nitro or Fryette.
     
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    Is out of my budget
     
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    Is it out of your budget used? Don't think I read where you mentioned a budget.
     
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    Well, the heads mentioned in this thread are in the same range of prices.
     
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    Handbanana SS.org Regular

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    I'm biased, honestly i get a boner every time i play through my 5150 iii
     
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    Well, I think that you have the 100 watts version. I think buy the 50 watter, but I not know if this amp (the mini), have a tone fuller or completed like are the heads of 120watts or 100watts.

    I can see all the time, guitar players with amps of 100 or 120 watts for this style musical. 50 watts is like more for the practice, now, 100watts is like to play in live, for concerts. But I not sure of this. What can say me?
     
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    Exactly what 50 watt amps are you practicing with because mine is pretty f***in' loud
     
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    He's probably using solid state, solid state watts are about a quarter or even half the output of a tube amp of the wattage.
     
  14. HeHasTheJazzHands

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    Yeah, even for small gigs, 50W may be to much. :lol:
     
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    The 50W is loud as fu*k and VERY close to the 100W. Almost exact.

    It's exactly what you're looking for.
     
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    Good. =) But my problem not is exactly with the loud, is with the tone, 100 watt or 120 watt sound like with more mids or body and fuller that a 50 watt head. Is like a comparison of cars. A 50 watt sound like a engine of a toyota corolla. Now, a 100 or 120 watts sound like a engine of a Mercedez SLR Mclaren or Lamborgini. Can understand me now?
     
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    My 50 watt head is louder than both of my band mates 100w heads. And the size of the thing is hard to replace when moving on and off the stage as fast as possible.


    :lol:! Indeed!
     
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    This is where you are wrong. Wattage does not equal sound quality. Wattage does not equal percieved volume. Wattage is a mesurement of energy and headroom. You get what? 3db difference between 50 watts and 100 watts?! You cannot compare wattage to car engine. Some of the best tone of all time come from low wattage amps, Bad Cat amps per say. Also, not to mention the extremely shitty Crate Blue Voodoo 300 :lol:

    The 50 watts is NOT a mini amp. It's just a smaller, more affordable version of the original.

    Now, how does compare the EVH 50 watts vs the 100 watts. Meaner. More gain. Volume power is almost as powerfull.

    My bandmate has the 100 watts, and I own the 50 watts, both into Mesa 4X12 OS cab from the same era. In our rock band, we use channel 2 for our rhythm sound. I put the gain on about 11:30, and the volume at 10:00 (we play FVCKING LOUD). On his, gain is on 3:00, volume at 9:30. We have almost the exact same sound.

    The only difference I can see is that the 100 watts is a little more low mids oriented where the 50 is high mids oriented but this is VERY SUBTLE.


    I have been a true amp whore before owning the EVH - I got a Framus Cobra, Mesa Triaxis + 2:90, VHT Pitbull CL, VHT 2-90 with Ada MP1, 3 Laney amps. I changed amps every 6 months! I 've been owning the EVH for 1 year and a half now, and it still amaze me. That's something.
     
  19. Quitty

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    Understand? yes. I think you just disagree.
    A 50W head has almost the same perceived volume, but less headroom. Bottom line is, when you really crank it up, you will have less low-bass than on a 100W version. If you have a bassist, that's usually a good thing.
    The mids shouldn't be any different. The tone should be identical.
     
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    Thanks, I understand this. Well, I have a Mesa 4x12 with v30, I love the low mids, the Mark Tremonti style.
     

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