EMG Vs Fishman

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  1. PariahMusic

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    Swapped out my EMG 81/85 set for a Fluence Tosin Abasi set. Comparison here:


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    Fishman = all day, errryday

    EMGs have been the quickest pulled set of pickups I've ever owned (twice)

    Blackouts > EMGs imo
    Then Fishmans > Blackouts > EMGs

    By the way, you made that guitar look so classy with the upgrades!
     
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    Lol wow. But yeah, I think that's the general consensus as far as active pickups. I liked the lead tone I got out of the EMGs a lot..but yup can get the same and better out of the fluences.

    Thanks! Classy is a great word for it haha I'm in love.
     
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    I love Fishmans and own 5 different sets - Tosins, Moderns (both 7 and 6 string), Classics, Strat, and Tele set. That said, I still have a guitar with EMG 81/85 in it, and it will be staying that way. EMG's have a sound to them. Sometimes that's the sound I want, even if I prefer most aspects of the Fishman sets.
     
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    Yup I hear you. I'm a fan of flexibility. They both have their place. Certainly keeping the EMGs in my Hellraiser Hybrid C8
     
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    I never played the fishmen myself so I am only relating to your video.

    I actually like the EMGs better as I don't like these mid-focused djent tones that much.
    While the EMG sound beefier (it' rare that someone calls these beefy, right?) the fishman sound more...uhm....djenty(sorry for the term)

    But I wouldn't call one of these two better than the other.
    Just different.
     
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    Im mostly in it for the flexibility and wanting to try them! But I will say this...I realized the next day that my pickup height on the Fluences was a little low, so that probably influenced it some. I raised them and they are a tad more full sounding.
    But yeah, in a mix, it's nothing revolutionary between the two of them. All about the flexibility for me
     
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    And guys... please subscribe if you're into this stuff. Building this channel is a huge goal for me!
     
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    @AirForbes1 you sir, are the man. Number 40 haha. Thanks dude, lots of cool stuff on the way.
     
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    I liked the rhythm tones of the EMG way more. Way more beef and a warmer chug. Couldn't stand the Fishman there, TBH.

    I liked the Fishman lead tones better though. Cleans were a toss up.
     
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    Fair enough. The only things to keep in mind are the pickup height thing I mentioned above, and that the tones were created for the EMGs. I used the same patch and settings to highlight differences.
     
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    Vastly preferred the EMGs. The Fishmans sound like you have a wah pedal engaged - there's such a prominent mid range bump somewhere.

    My advice would be that if those patches were designed with your EMG-equipped guitar in mind, you'd probably want to tweak it a bit (unless you prefer the mid bump sound).

    My own thoughts are that Fishman pickups are cool. I have a set in one of my favourite guitars. But the EMG81 has been around for almost 30 years and has been on so many epic metal albums. It's been successful for a reason. It sounds fucking good. They didn't suddenly become shit when the whole "passives are best" thing came along. And they didn't become worse when Fishman came up with a new way of making pickups.
     
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    Completely agreed that EMGs are still fine. People are bandwagon-y..thankfully, folks on this site tend to avoid that. But yeah I do still prefer the fishmans after doing some patch tweaking for them. Certainly a personal preference thing.
     
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    Awesome. I like your playing. Looking forward to more videos. Good luck.
     
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    I'm able to get my moderns sound a bit closer to the emg 81 with some tweaks in eq. The 81 has more bass i think and less sizzle. You'd think the 81 was slicey dicey, but the ceramic modern has a bit more high mids and treble. putting on hf tilt with the modern set got it closer to an emg 81x in my experience.

    In a mix it won't matter. But live, the Fluence just has more pros for me. It is very very very quiet and live, I dont even need a noise gate even if im running gobs of gain and an od pedal. The 81 can't do that.
     
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    The fluence moderns definitely have the cocked wah sound as well. Kinda like a tubescreamer eq without the boost. It's not as prevalent at much lower 6 string tunings, at namely g # for me.

    Bought the modern set to put in a les paul, and I did not like them in there at all. They found a home in the ibanez baritone, as it needed a bit of tightening up in the lows.

    I'm very much a fan of the 57/66 emgs in standard 6s.
     
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    Personally for 7/8 strings I'd never bother with EMGs again. Tried the 707s, 707x, 808x, 57-66-8, 81x/85x-8 and all of them were meh imo.
    that being said, the fishmans were def clearer, though that patch definitely didn't do it any favors. It was super quacky/honky. Using a patch made for the emgs skews the results imo. I'd have preferred if you could've used a more neutral patch/settings that works with both of them.
     
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    As usual, I agree with you. In my case, substitute 81 above for 85 :)
     
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    Im still waiting for someone to compare an emg with the RPC knob against a fishman. The difference from stock seems that the fishman is tighter and more twangier/Hifi etc.

    Which the rpc basically does for emgs. Tightens low end and boosts high end for more clarity.
     
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    How is the Greg Koch tele set on high gain? Strongly considered getting them but ended up rolling with a Tone Zone T.
     

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