Does anybody have tips on customizing your own guitar tone

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  1. machinegunriffer82

    machinegunriffer82 SS.org Regular

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    does anybody have tips on customizing your own guitar tone , like what would give me the options of doing this. eq pedals? etc.:shred:
     
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    All knobs to 11, treble at 4 :yesway:
     
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    My first guitar teacher said it to me first, and I still think it's true today. Find a player whose tone you absolutely love, copy what he/she does, then modify to taste. Build on the shoulders of giants, it saves a hell of a lot of time.

    Good luck to you.
     
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    Tone comes from the fingers, so work on developing your technique in a unique way ;) Actually, that's true to a certain extent, but obviously other stuff plays a big part as well.


    ^ Very excellent advice.

    For example, for my lead tone, I got some advice and made it as close to John Petrucci's lead tone as possible, and messed around with it till I was finally happy :agreed:
     
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    yeah that's really great advice, but I was thinking more gear wise like pedals procesors etc, like which ones carve out different kinds of tone greatly.
     
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    Nik hit the nail on the head. What makes you you comes from you, not from some arbitrary piece of gear.

    Having said that, the more ways you can shape your sound to be like the music you hear in your head, the better. Play with every piece of gear & guitar you can get your hands on. String 'em up together & see what works with what. It's the only way to fly IMO.
     
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    This is probably obvious but I'll say it anyway: regarding eq - whenever I get a new piece of gear I set all the eq or tone controls to flat or neutral. Then I slowly move each knob to either extreme of its range, while playing a wide range of notes & chords, to get a sense of how it affects the tone by itself. It's the best way I know to get the feel of how each piece of gear can shape my tone.
     
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    definately an EQ of any sorts will help immensely. I have a 5 band parametric EQ and I get exactly what I'm looking for.
     
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    This is a hugely underappreciated part of the tonal equation. Honestly, you want to sound better? Practice unplugged, and really listen to how the guitar responds when you hit it. My legato technique improved like tenfold when I started practicing legato licks unplugged - suddenly my notes weren't blurring together as much and were clearer with a more defined attack, since I basically HAD to play cleaner and more accurately without all that gain to hide behind.

    Aside, from that, I'm a tonal purist - I think the easiest way to get great tone is to take a great sounding guitar with afresh set of strings, run it through a decent cable into a great sounding and responsive amp (I like tubes, but I've played some excellent SS rigs), and leave it at that. I like a bit of light delay, but my experience is that when in doubt the least amount of effect processing you can get away with will always sound better and more "real" in a mix, relative to a track doused in compression, delay, chorus, reverb, flanger, and gain. Additionally, more often than not you'll get a better attack with LESS gain, rather than more. it lets the sound of the guitar breathe a bit more.
     
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    :agreed:
     
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    I have my tone pretty much where I want it, but I still don't know how to get more sustain without compressing the living shit out of my playing. That being said, I'm a big Pink Floyd / David Gilmour fan, so you can see where I'm comming from.
     
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    if you're looking for more sustain, perhaps you need a new guitar?
     
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    Nik Arrogant asshole

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    Sustainer :idea:

    Or you could get one of those E-Bows. They look pretty sweet, although they look better for slower stuff and not very comfy for shredding.
     
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    ...though, for shred-ier stuff, you don't really NEED three minutes of sustain. ;)

    The problem with an Ebow, though, is they're not really meant to be used with a distorted guitar amp - they recommend you use your neck pickup on the clean channel with the volume rolled back at the guitar. The thing has enough output that even that'll get you liquid, saturated sustain. You don't HAVE to use it this way - I love how it sounds on the bridge pickup in harmonic mode with the volume up, clean but held over the fretboard - but with that LED, if you use it on a saturated amp you're likely to get a lot of hiss.
     
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    I'm sure you could use it like a violin bow and shred with it. In fact, that'd sound pretty interesting, I don't think I've heard anyone doing that.

    But otherwise, point-taken ;)

    I didn't know you couldn't use distortion with it (although I don't find it surprising, I guess it makes sense.). That's somewhat disappointing... Although doesn't Petrucci use an E-Bow to sustain a distorted chord for like a minute in "Space-Dye Vest"?
     
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    I'm pretty sure SDV is basically just crushing amp gain by the end of the song, but it's alledgedly possible to sweep it back and forth from well above the strings to help a chord sustain.

    Of course, the thing slams your preamp hard enough that even on your clean channel it sounds like it's pretty damned overdriven...
     
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    I think there was a list on the E-bow website of songs that use the E-bow, and Space Dye Vest was one of them.

    Sounds cool, though, I might pick one up for Christmas or something :yesway:
     
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    :lol: I need to break out my copy again - I KNOW that the last couple chords are at least partially straight-up amp distortion, because frankly an ebow doesn't "crunch" like that. However, my guess was always that there were distorted chords in the background, but some ebow lead lines harmonized on top.

    :idea: I know what I'm listening to on the drive to work tomorrow. :D
     

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