Did I get scammed?

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  1. Wolfos

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    My wife bought me a Seymour Duncan Jazz neck and bridge for Christmas off reverb and they looked used and abused when I opened the gift, totally fine by me as long as they work. But as I tried to install them I noticed a few odd things about it that made me question if they were legit .

    1.) The bridge pickup was unlabeled, I chalked it up to the Seymour Duncan print wearing off or owner scrubbed it off.
    2.) Neck pickup did say Seymour Duncan, if the owner scrubbed 1 off why wouldn't he do both.
    3.) I noticed the bridge wires go out of the pickup towards the controls like normal, the neck however goes out the other way like it was for a left handed guitar, weird eh?
    4.) Lastly what made me write this post was the back plate on both of them don't have the Seymour Duncan etching, it's just a blank piece of metal. There are the stickers that say JB and JN but they could have easily been added by the seller.

    I'm a little nervous that it's a scam as my wife probably paid $150 or more for them (CAD) and I want it to be money well spent.

    Let me know your thoughts,
    I will add pictures asap.
     
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    Firstly happy christmas dude!

    I think personally, it sounds like they are fakes. Im no expert but after seeing that I would instantly assume they are and I was conned.

    Does anyone in here have experience of Genuine Duncans looking like this?
     
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    Merry Christmas man,

    I'm trying to investigate before I go on Reverb and ask for a refund. I hope the pickup pictures help.
     
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    good plan!.

    Also, does this Duncan "label" site with descriptions of how they should be labelled help? -

    https://www.seymourduncan.com/faqs/labels-built-before-2002

    there is links in there to different years /\
     
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    These look really fake to me but I am no expert.

    I thought Seymour Duncan stamped their logo into the back like you so thats a huge warning sign.
     
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    They're likely old . older models didn't have etching if I remember correctly.
     
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    Old Seymour Duncans of the 80's & some of the early 90's were unbranded entirely. These being 7 stringers though, they'd likely either say Seymour Duncan or Duncan Designed on them.
     
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    That's what I thought, I mean there not new but when did SD start making the jazz and JB 7 string model?
     
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    You can try testing the dcr to see if they are close to where they should be.
     
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    Good call, they shouldn't be much different to what the website says even if there old right?

    Still seems weird that the guy told me a "set" with 1 wire headed right and 1 wire headed left.
     
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    In regards to the neck pickup being backwards. That's normal. My SD jazz was the same way. Mount it normally and run the wires under the pickup.
     
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    Ok good to know. It's looking more and more like there real, I'm looking for my multimeter for the last confirmation.
     
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    The bottom does seem like what an older pickup plate might look like, but something seems just a bit off about them in general.
     
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    So rookie question. The SD website says 1
    DCR IS 18.8 for the JB

    I'm measuring each pairing (white/black & red/green) and each are about 9.9 or 9.8

    So is the 18.8 because they add the 2 pairings together?
     
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    They started their seven string models in the early 2000's.
     
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    A friend of mine has some late 80's, early 90's Seymour Duncan pickups (6 stringers) and they are labeled just like that: one sticker with the pickup's inicials. In his case, they are a JB and an AH (for Allan Holdsworth). No other marking nor sticker on them. I think these might be legit, but measure their DCR first.
     
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    Thanks for everyone's help,
    these must have been one of the first sets of 7 string JB and Jazz pickups because they were unlabeled at the back but the DCR matched what the website stated.

    I finished installing them today and they sound amazing through my H&K deluxe 20 so that's more proof that they were legit.

    I'm very satisfied with them.
     
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    Those look legit to me. I have older Duncans and have seen and done many pickup installs with Duncans. Nothing throws a red flag to me on those. They're good.
     
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    I am skeptical, due to the unstamped baseplates, the size of the 'Seyour Duncan' font, and the fact that super old SD pickups didn't have a logo on them at all. You might try posting on the Duncan forum.
     
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