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Discussion in 'Dealers & Group Buys' started by narad, Sep 9, 2011.
If it was in inlay, it'd be insanely impressive.
And insanely structurally questionable ;-) Last time I chatted with Dylan the new policy is no flamed maple necks either - you can have figure, but maybe just as the center piece in a 3/5-piece neck. Well, I don't want to say what Daemoness policy is, maybe he would build you one, but if the luthier advises you against something, I think you usually agree!
I believe it's the Etherial font.
That one belongs to my friend who just joined here today. his username is v0iceless
Really? Did he say why? After all, you can find plenty of examples of crazy flamed maple necks by companies and luthiers who would probably know if it would cause structural issues, such as PRS and Carvin.
and conversely you have Suhr who (before they switched to "roasted" maple) wouldn't warranty figured necks for more than 3 (or maybe 5) years vs lifetime for non-figured necks.
Well the thing about figured necks is that there's a good chance you won't have any trouble at all, but in comparison to just some solid rock maple, it's much more unreliable. And who's going to be responsible when your $4k set neck guitar has an unstable neck? No one wants to deal with that, and if playability is your primary concern why would you risk it? If you're PRS private stock and most of your clientele probably won't even be playing guitar 3 years later, and figured woods is a big part of the attraction, obviously there's incentive to go that route*. As Elq points out, Daemoness isn't the only company shying away from heavily figured woods (or to be precise, necks that are made entirely from flamed maple).
*I pick on PRS PS, but I do want one with some obnoxiously figured neck and top too!
Wouldnt neck fillets a la vik solve the problem?
To some degree. I know Dylan has necks that are <rock maple / something hard / quilt maple / something hard / rock maple> so figured woods aren't ruled out completely. Still, at that point I'd just personally opt for rock maple and runners.
He must have had a problem with flame maple before so thats why he doesn't use it anymore. Does Dylan use any other main neck woods beside Maple and Rosewood? I know he's used Mahogany,cocobolo, ebony etc for fillets.
I'm going to go for a 5 piece rock-maple, honduran rosewood for mine.
I'm sure Dylan told me that the reason he is using rock maple is because his guitar come with a lifetime warranty and as such he has chosen the most stable maple available.
I know quilted maple is soft and unusable for fretboards/necks realistically but I was always under the impression that flamed maple was a branch of rock maple...weird, Dylan must of had a bad experience.
Any word on when Dylan's going to start building the next round?
The fact it's a certain species of maple (or other type of wood) doesn't matter much here, the problem with flamed wood is that it's less stable and strong compared to a piece of quartersawn, straight grained wood.
New Daemoness site seems to be up!
Dæmoness Guitars – Lutherie Infernus
There's a flat-out "Norse Gallery"... damn Daemoness Guitars is awesome.
That was scary, the menu showed in Comic Sans before the correct font loaded.
Yea Dylan is the kind of person who would've studied history if he didn't make awesome metal guitars for a living. Wish he'd uploaded more pictures, but those are sick as it is.
I am really thinking ordering a cimmerian now.
It's as much about the cut as the type of wood. Quartersawn is strongest, but you can find flame patterns in flat, rift, and quartersawn wood. I'm not sure how positively you'd be able to identify a cut as quartersawn (very much not a woodworker of any type) nor how readily available flamed quartersawn maple is.