Build 4 : Ash HS superstrat, now with CNC!

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  1. KR250

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    Haha! This rings especially true for me.

    I dig the new design, although personally I would add another bevel on the lower horn top cutaway and blend it in with the outer bevel. I think that would add a lot of comfort for playing up high. Maybe match it on the upper horn as well. The bottom access point looks really good.
     
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    If you have the ability to loft surfaces, draw a line on the back and a line on the side, then some straight guide lines between the two and loft from one line to the other using the guides to keep it flat.
     
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    So true. Why do you think my GibsonV replica isn't done and I started in December?
     
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    that looks awesome dude. great job
     
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    I see your point, and I am sure that would also look very good, but I think it'd detract from he uniqueness of the design. Little scoops like that have been on almost all carved top superstrats, and I like it a lot, but I also loved the old, un-scooped RGA carve. If it's a bevel rather than a curve then I think I'm gonna love it just as much.
     
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    Top inner horn scoops would probably make it a little more playable but I think since the fretboard already sits proud on the top of the body the access will be fine without them. And yeah I visually like this design a lot so I don't want to change it :)

    I've been on hold a bit while I finish up my third build. I need to glue up a test body blank for this body and haven't gotten around to it yet. I DID get the control cavity designed though, and I'm pretty proud of it. I'll share pictures a little later.
     
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    Did a test body on a slightly narrow piece of pine tonight!

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    This went well. Couple toolpath tweaks to make before the final piece but nothing too bad (that hole for the volume knob was NOT supposed to be drilled).

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    This kind of thing is way easier with cnc. I should do myself a new strat pickguard one of these days.

    Hopefully gonna do the real body this weekend! Possibly a test one in Alder to turn into a real guitar before I do the ash one. This pine one is not only too narrow but also too thin.

    When I get this whole process done once, I think it might be fun to do a video series on YouTube of a whole build from start to finish (including the modeling process).
     
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    I would really appreciate a video series, especially if you included some basics on the modelling!

    Must be very satisfying to design it, program your CNC and soon after have a body that just needs sanding. If only there was a CNC sander to go through the multiple grits!
     
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    Milled the top of my Alder body blank.

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    This is the body of my "test" guitar I'm building for myself before I build my brother's with the nice wood. This Alder is actually quite pretty, but I'm going to paint it. Probably a sparkle purple or blue.

    Gonna do the back tomorrow. :D
     
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    looks great, what endmills did you use for each operation, and how long did it take?
     
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    Did the outline contour, roughing pass, volume hole, and neck and pickup pockets with a quarter inch flat endmill, did the finishing pass with a quarter inch ball nose. The switch slot and bridge holes I did with a 1.5mm end mill. And the pilot holes for the neck bolts I did with a 1/8th inch end mill.

    Took a couple hours total.
     
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    not bad. making me get the itch to get my machine..
     
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    +1 contemplating battering recently paid off credit card on one :( :D

    You lot are a bad influence :hbang:
     
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    I mean, you know, don't put yourself into financial jeopardy over one. But they're pretty dern cool :D
     
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    Funny thing is ... my old man (rip :hbang: ) had a homemade Pc controlled Cnc machine & lathes but I wasn't interested in it then & we sold it all to help mum

    Typical. :D I'm getting the bug for accuracy & consistency so I'm pretty sure I'll be investing eventually!! My Mrs has in her possession a guitar duplicator from a retired luthier which I'm looking forward to messing with when I've borrowed a suitable feeler & router for it :D

    Staying tuned as usual
     
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    Did the back!
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    The electronics cavity is gonna be pretty neat. Milling the cover out of wood. It will follow the contour of the body. Should be sexy.

    The body feels good. The heel is actually bigger than I think it needs to be. Might have to modify it for my brother's.
     
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    I'm looking at that bevel and just thinking about the time saved from using a rasp :p Looks cool. I'm trying to force my CC back into the wallet instead of a CNC machine.

    How long does the CNC cutting take per side?
     
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    A couple hours per side. I think I can go faster still (it isn't working all that hard yet) but in gradually ramping that up.

    Honestly though for me the cnc is more about the precision than the speed. Though the speed is nice too!
     
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    Test fitting. I think I'm in love.

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    Now I'm debating skipping the paint and just doing a satin clear coat on the body.

    On the other hand... Imagine this thing in blue with a matching headstock!
     
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    The body shape and carves looks great.
     

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