Best playability + durability for the money.

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  1. ger0x7

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    I'm looking for a "shred" guitar that plays great, the peak where money raise starts to not being that worthy for the playability and IF possible, durability.

    I know the concept of the "best guitar" is different for everyone, but when I think of it I imagine:

    - Great construction
    - Thin neck
    - Rosewood fretboard
    - Quality frets
    - Low action possibilities
    - Comfortable and light body

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    So, In other words let's forget about +500 $ guitars. It doesn't matter if it's new or used. And if you think such guitar doesn't exists then recommend one that is the closest to this in your mind.

    ThanksĀ”
     
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    oracles Australian in Canda

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    Used RG550's and Japanese Jacksons are unbeatable sub $500.
     
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    Any ESP/LTD 1000-Deluxe series (e.g. EC-1000, H-1000) would work well.

    Edit: used MiJ Ibanez or Jackson.
     
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    Thanks, I hear good things about those. One question, is it better an older model or a newer model. I always think of oldies as re-fret or restoration jobs in general, could you give me more info about this?
     
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    There's whole sites dedicated to RG's, have a look through them :yesway:
     
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    Buying used, what would be a fair price?
     
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    Ok, thanks.
     
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    forget overpriced 20 year old 550s, forget everything else. The best thing you can find for 500 is a mid-late 2000s prestige 15xx/25xx. No competition here.
     
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    They go past 500 don't they?
     
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    I came here just to write this.
     
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    sometimes, sometimes not, sometimes they have upgraded pickups, most of the time they have the nice as hell prestige case, almost always in much better condition than 550s

    Again, used prestiges less than 1/2 as old as 550s sell for around the same price, and absolutely beats 550s. Better fretwork, better neck finish, better case, usually better condition.
     
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    oracles Australian in Canda

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    I would be inclined to disagree with you. Pre '94 RG550's are unequivocally better than any newer 1xxx Prestige. 2xxx and 3xxx tier Prestige builds usually don't sit at $500 or below, more commonly $600+ which puts them out of OP's budget.
     
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    $400-450 or so for a 1000-Deluxe series LTD
     
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    Prestiges unequivocally have better fret treatment and neck finishing. nearly 30 year old necks tend to warp, crack at the nut and neck joint, have worn frets, dull trems, rusty hardware, shoddy wiring etc. But if thats what you think is better...

    Also location canada, $=USD, I never said 3xxx go for 500, because they never do, but others do
     
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    I would say a used regular EBMM JP, without the piezo option and potentially without all the pimps (inlays and matching headstock)

    That would be a great deal and fit exactly what you need...
     
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    Doesn't really matter, just know that most RG5xx models have pretty crappy Ibanez branded pickups but often used ones have DiMarzios or Duncans installed. The main differences are that the old 1980s models have a slanted block heel that is not quite as ergonomic as the more contoured Ibanez All-Access Neck Joint but I would not rule out a guitar because of that. I owned a 1989 RG550 for about 15 years and really liked it.

    Another thing to check on these is that the old ones have their locking nut installed straight thru the neck and because they have a literal toothpick of a neck (one of the thinnest you can find), that area is pretty weak. Mine had a hairline crack develop to it just from lifting it out of a stand shortly after buying it. I filled the crack with superglue and the guitar held fine for the duration I owned it and probably works just fine for its new owner. A bit newer models added a volute and the nut is installed just from the top so those should be a bit stronger. Again, a feature to be aware of but not something that would make me avoid buying one.

    For a bridge you want the Ibanez Edge or Lo-Pro Edge. Avoid the cheaper Lo-TRS found on some models like a plague.

    Other brands you might want to look out for are Carvin and Yamaha. The higher end Yamaha Pacificas like the 812,821, 912 or 921 are seriously good instruments and same goes for older Carvins. Another "black horse" guitars are the Kramer Stagemasters. They are pretty rare and probably not sub-$500 but they are essentially equivalent to USA Jackson Soloists in quality and specs so if you find one in a store do give it a go.

    You are definitely looking at only the used market if you want a quality guitar in that price range.
     
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    nah. 550s actually have the better trems (with locking studs)
    they also have the thinner neck (wanted by ts)
    in decent shape 5xx series are not overprized imo (<500)
     
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    edge is not functionally better than edge pro, its bulkier and feels softer
    the locking studs are a gimmick made up by rich
    1mm thinner, worn out, possibly warped, cracked, block heel neck is not better than a newer and better finished prestige neck
    they're overpriced compared to the prestige models due to the collectors factor
     
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    I would also say Shoot for a newer RG Prestige such as the 1550, 1570, 2550, or 2570. These guitars are starting to go up in price but should still be able to score one around $500-600. There are also some lesser known models like the RG 2610 and RG 1420 anniversary models that I have owned that are also amazing guitars.
     

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