Baritone Tele USA Custom Guitars "Build"

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  1. kindsage

    kindsage SS.org Regular

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    I recently got a Tele Body from USACG along with a 28.625" neck. This is my first "build" thread. More of an assembly thread but, figured I could document the journey anyway.
    Its a swamp ash body with a roasted maple neck, ebony fretboard, SS frets, and Luminlay side dots

    Heres some pictures of the body.
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    They forgot the forearm contour, tummy cut, and heel contour. I didn't want to send it back and have to wait again so I decided to just do the tummy cut and forearm contour myself. I also decided to just live without the heel contour. I'm not much of a shredder anyway.

    Heres some pics of the body after adding the contours and doing an accidental "antique" finish
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    Lastly here's the neck. I tried to test some spots near the heel to see if a brownish red dye would look nice but, it didn't. I decided to just tung oil the neck instead.

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    Lessons I've learned so far:
    - Acetone is not the same as paint thinner
    - Always ask for a piece of scrap swamp ash, mahogany, ect... so then you have a good piece to test your finishing ideas on.
    - Be patient when finishing. Actually wait the full drying time for dyes, oils, stains, paints, etc.
    - Sand with the grain and keep your work space clean
     
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    KnightBrolaire gearwhoricus americanus

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    are you planning on keeping the body antique like that?
     
  3. kindsage

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    Yes. I originally wanted a gray color though. I think I would have had more success by mixing black and white dye rather than using just black alone.

    I tried using white drywall putty to fill the grain and make it pop out more and get rid of the natural yellowish color of the wood but, that failed. So did using white house paint to fill the grain.
     
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    Zhysick Sick of all

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    Schecter Apocalypse PT-EX on the works. Nice!!
     
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    how do they just forget the contours. yeesh. looks nice though.

    real baritone best baritone.
     
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    Wolfos Guitarded

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    Is there any adjustments to adding scale length to the neck needed? I thought about doing a parts guitar but i wasnt sure if a longer neck would just simple work with a standard guitar body.
     
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    these conversion necks simply add 2 frets behind the nut and then move the headstock back. so no change necessary.

    It doesn't make the "perfect" baritone but it's fine.
     
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    Albake21 "Just get a used Ibanez Prestige."

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    As someone who doesn't like Teles, that thing looks like it's going to be pretty sweet!
     
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    Kyle-Vick Also likes Jeeps and Motocross.

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    I am a Tele guy, so I find this sexy. Nice work!
     
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    Oh sh!t it does look like that! :lol:
    Didn't know schecter made a Tele Apocalypse
     
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    kindsage SS.org Regular

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    What would make a "perfect" baritone?
     
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    No adjustments needed to the body as long as you increase the scale length by an integer number of frets.
    1 fret extra is basically a 27" scale, 2 frets extra is basically a 28.625 scale, etc...
     
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    7 Strings of Hate Mid-Level Asshole Contributor

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    I had one of these(for sale for a while on here for 5 bills and every goon on here slept on an amazing guitar) and they are awesome. Great quality and sound. The one gripe is that the conversion neck shifts the neck further to the left essentially, and it got a little more akward feeling than if it were designed to have the neck centered a little more than shifted off. Tiny issue and something that probably wouldn't bother the vast majority of people.
     
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    I'm not seeing the images for some reason.
     
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    I really like that finish, accidental or not. Did you just hit it with diluted black dye?
     
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    The pickups on the conversions are in the "wrong" place. Purpose built baritones usually have a slightly larger body. The bridge is moved back and the pickups are spaced a bit further apart to match the nodes on a regular scale guitar. I don't think it really matters but on the conversions the neck pickup is near the middle.

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    baritone.

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    regular version.
     
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    Ahh i see. It looks like the bridge is slightly lower on the baritone. I’m going to pay close attention to the neck and bridge position next time I play a purpose built baritone. Maybe I will enjoy the ergonomics a bit more
     
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    Super easy to do. Get water soluble black dye. Make a super dark mix by using about 2 ounces of water with the dye powder. Start applying with an old t-shirt/rag. Keep applying coats until the whole body is basically jet black. You don’t have to wait very long between coats, maybe 1 to 2 minutes (I know because im impatient as hell). Once its jet black wait about 5 minutes. Then grab some 220 grit sand paper and a sanding block. Sand until you reach the desired antique look. Do a finish sanding pass with 400 grit then apply tung oil to seal everything.

    I got my dye for about $4 from Luthiers Mercantile
     
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