Baritone LP pickup recommendations

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  1. KnightBrolaire

    KnightBrolaire gearwhoricus americanus

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    the GAS has hit me hard and I find myself jonesing for a set of pickups to replace the really good stock ones in my agile LP baritone. (mahogany neck/body with maple top, 27" scale).
    Looking for something chunky/thick sounding but still pretty clear since my lowest string is tuned to G1.
    contenders for now :
    +Miracle Man
    +c-bomb
    +Dominion

    -Black Dog (I fucking love the snarly mids from this pickup but I don't think it's chunky sounding enough for this guitar)
    -I thought about a c-pig but it'd probably be way too dark for this guitar.
    -Not looking to get another set of lace (already have the dissonant aggressors in a guitar).
    -already have a super distortion 3 loaded guitar and another with a duncan distortion

    Main concerns are balancing a chunky/thick rhythm tone (ie Clutch/Mastodon/Pelican esque) with getting enough clarity.

     
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  2. KnightBrolaire

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    yep disregard, I found some used ragnaroks. time to see if they live up to the hype
     
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    interested. lemme know how they work out. I was eying some impulses for my REAL 28.625 scale baritone.
    I have a set of Motor City nukes in there right now which are ceramic 25k pickups similar specs to the cpig. Not as dark as you'd think.
     
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    KnightBrolaire gearwhoricus americanus

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    yeah I'll post up an npd/vid when I install em.
     
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    @KnightBrolaire a bit of an unorthodox suggestion, but if the Rags don't work out, do you think the PRS Tremonti set might be a good fight? Just spitballin', might be something you hadn't considered.
     
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    hmm I'll look into em.
     
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    I have a PRS Tremonti, and aside from the scale length (25 vs your 27) the specs on it are pretty similar and I dig the stock pickups pretty well. I have a set of Black Winters I'm going to put in it instead, just to try something different/more modern, but the Tremonti set is pretty sweet.
     
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    I know It's my pickup and that makes me a little biased but the impulse set would slay in this guitar.
     
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    The only Bareknuckle I've tried is the Alnico Blackhawk 7 and I have to say it fixed most of the issues I had regarding tone in the guitar I put it in. And it's really hot for such low DC resistance. I've heard other people call them dark and while it did give a more present bass and low mid response it is nowhere near overpowering the natural brightness of the guitar it's in. In conclusion if the Ragnarok doesn't work out the Blackhawk is a good option. Or the Impulse as noob_pawn and diagrammatiks suggested as to my understanding are a more refined version of the Blackhawk.
     
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    I once reamped the DI files Nolly posted here (or ultimate metal), where he demoed several bareknuckles.
    I wanted to get an unbiased idea of what was behind all this hype.
    After reamping I picked my favorite and I also analysed the frequency spectrum of the mic'd signal using voxengo span.

    Long story short:
    The best (to my ears) and most chunky one was the Painkiller. It had lots of 150 hz oomph and only few low-mids

    Both warpigs however had far less bass but tons of of 200 to 400 hz low mids which made these seem mushy.

    So if I was looking for a chunky but clear tone, I would prefer the Painkiller over any other bareknuckle pickup.
     
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    I've had the painkillers before and they do have a nice percussiveness but they're a bit too harsh on the high end for my tastes. Something about those upper mids just didn't quite sit well with the guitar I had em in/my rig. I don't think they'd be a good fit for this guitar since it's not a very dark sounding guitar.

    yeah we'll see how the rags turn out. If I don't dig em I'll look into the alnico blackhawk/impulse.

    hmm I'll look into the impulses but I figured with the relatively even EQ they might not be the best match for this guitar and what I want to play. I know they're capable of playing some pretty low register stuff and staying clear since Northlane tunes to what, Drop F, or something? I do like the sound of "muscular mids"- that's right up my alley since the black dog is one of my favorite pickups.
     
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    I used a Miracle Man in my 27" baritone (I only tune to B standard though) and it sounds MASSIVE! Huge wall of sound.
    I have replaced it since with a Juggernaut, which has less of a sledgehammer sound, but has better tracking in the mix and with the low notes.
     
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    well the ragnaroks were faulty so I'm getting another set of elysians to replace em (it's a new wind that adam came up with). also have a set of impulses waiting to be installed if the elysians don't work out.
     
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    rags= meh
    impulses= :yesway: :yesway:
    dominion= :yesway:
    alnico blackhawk= :yesway:
    ended up installing fishman moderns into this particular guitar, but the impulses are definitely sticking around for my other baritone.
     
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    Wonder if you've ever tried the EMG57? It's kinda PAF-like, but hot-rodded. Nothing like the EMG81.

    I have one in a 7 string ESP eclipse (mahogany body, maple cap, neck thru) and it sounds immense. Big and thick, but still has clarity.
     
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    I had the 57/66 set in an 8 string. Not really my thing. The low end was a bit too round for my tastes and i had a hard time dialing in a sound I liked with them. Maybe the 6 string version works significantly better, but I won't be going out of my way to install them anytime soon. If I do go back to EMGs I'd probably check out the jh set.
     
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    As one who has had several pickups in my Bari-Tele, I can assure you, you want clarity, especially in the low end. Even on clean, low gain, vintage, or hi gain settings, a tighter low end will aid overall clarity. I use the EMG Ceramic Tele set, but if I were to go to a humbucker again on that guitar, I'd opt for an underwound similar to the custom hand wound that I originally had in it. You may even consider an EMG 58, or an HA if yours is Humbucker routed. You can also opt for an SPC or RPC or EXG tone control to finely tailor your tone.
     
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    Thanks, I'll keep the HA in mind if I do try EMGs again, but as I said, I'm not looking to try them anytime soon.
    My pickup preference for my baritone 6 stringers as of late has been for higher output pickups provided they have tighter bass and good clarity. I find that most pickups I've tried in my baritones have worked well with my rig/tunings (barring the super distortion 3 or parallel axis distortion). Having a coil split option really makes them more viable as well.
    It's funny because for my 8 strings I can't stand higher output pickups (even the same models as some of my favorite 6 string pickups). I find with 8 strings I really need the greater clarity and tighter low end, so medium output ceramic based pickups tend to work better for me.
     

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