Another versus-thread - what to buy

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  1. Pat_tct

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    Hi folks,

    so to make it short, i am in the market for buying a cheap tele style guitar to upgrade with different pickups and locking tuners etc.

    i have 2 in mind right now.

    The first one being the ESP LTD TE-212 Maple BLK
    ESP LTD TE-212 Maple BLK - Thomann UK

    The other is the Fender SQ Jim Root Sig
    Fender SQ Jim Root Telecaster FBK - Thomann UK


    So quick question, which of those 2 guitars has the better built quality. i know i won't get much for the price and all, but this is going to be a beater. a guitar that i can abuse live and mod and don't care about scratches and stuff.

    How are the necks? i like my necks a little chunkier. not a fan of slim shredder necks.

    or do you have other guitars that would fit the following criteria that i should check out?

    25,5" scale
    22 or 24 frets
    fatter/rounder necks
    HS/SS/SH pick up config


    as always thanks in advance

    Cheers
    Pat
     
  2. Chemical-Pony

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    Fender Squier?
     
  3. Wolfhorsky

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    I like esthetics of thet LDT much more (eg. maple fretboard). I am not EMG guy anyway, so i would swap pickups in no time. I would take a risk on LDT and send it to the luthier for fretjob. LDT has comfy cutout for the right forearm. I would change pickups for DiMarzio single-size-dual-blades ones and put pearl pickguard \m/ As the matter of fact, i planned to do this about 1 month ago, but now i am Skerv guy ;-)
     
  4. Pat_tct

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    @Chemical-Pony the JR sig is a squier but i would consider other squier teles as well if you have any specific recommendations.

    @Wolfhorsky that was my plan^^ swap out the single coil for a dual blade dimarzio and the neck PU for a PAF or something. Fretjob would be done if the frets start to wear out (and replace them with SS frets).

    i was more concerned about the necks. which neck is smaller/slimmer and which one is beefier.

    any comments on overall quality comparing the ltd 212 and squier teles in that range (up to 400€)?
     
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    Go to the store and try them :) It is the most simple way to check it. In real life, we often don't have much time. In Thomann You have 30 days to send it back if don't like it. Now i see, that JR SQ Tele hasn't got real EGMs...
     
  6. Pat_tct

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    i def try to check them out in a bigger store in another city this month.
    but maybe someone has recommendations for i should check out as well.
     
  7. Fraz666

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    I got a Squier (Stratocaster) and a LTD (KH-2) and the LTD is 10000 times better so about the brand to choose I got no doubt.
    but is only me, about two different models...
     
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    Both brands are good but I lean towards the LTD. My LTD's were much nicer than my Squier. The necks on LTD's are killer. Definitely see if you can try one somewhere.
     
  9. Benraldo

    Benraldo plays sixes

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    I've got the LTD TE212 in black. I swapped the bridge pickup for a Dimarzio Tone Zone. I personally love the way it sounds, and it plays really nicely for a budget guitar. The neck profile I would say is similar to most of the LTD's I've played. It's comfortable for me but I wouldn't call it chunky.
     
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    Try them both out if you can, but I've always like the necks on Fenders more than LTDs.
     
  11. HeHasTheJazzHands

    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    They're going to be on-par quality-wise. Same quality pickups, hardware, woods, electronics, etc...

    The LTD may have a slightly thinner neck, though.

    I'd still go with the LTD, though. I prefer maple necks, and the overall look of it.
     
  12. Pat_tct

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    thanks for the input guys. i will try them out within the next 2 weeks when i drive to a store nearby.

    i like the black te-212 more from in terms of looks, but i kinda really want a chunkier neck.

    any other 6-string teles that i should check out? up to 600€ maybe
     
  13. Bloodshredder

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    I'd go for the LTD, too. But decide for yourself, after you tried them out

    Viel Glück
     
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    How about a used Fender JR Telecaster?
     
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    Fender Blacktop Telecaster comes to mind.
    Great value to be found with these!
     
  16. HeHasTheJazzHands

    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    LTD TE-406 might be in your price range. Closest thing you'll get to a budget-friendly Fender Jim Root.

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    Or a Schecter Diamond PT. Korean-made guitar, wide beefy neck, stock pickups that are supposedly decent.

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    Took the words out of my mouth, was going to tell you check
    these out + maybe a chapman tele, the should be in your price range s well
     
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    imo, single coil size humbuckers never sound the same as real humbuckers. Anyone else think so?
     
  19. stevexc

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    If you can live with 21 frets the Squier Classic Vibe teles are arguably some of the best t-styles in the price range.


    Disagree, but you be the judge. For comparison, here's a version with a "real" humbuckers, albeit in a completely different guitar. They sound pretty different from each other, definitely, but I wouldn't say that the single-sized ones sound like anything but a humbucker.

    Mini humbuckers, on the other hand, definitely don't sound like humbuckers.
     

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