Alternative to the Nazgul 7?

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  1. Reignerrr

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    I'm looking for something with that clarity and punch but with less amount of mids
     
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    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    Have you ever tried an EVO7?
     
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    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    It's clear and aggressive, some think it's a little on the thinner side, but that would mean less mid thump, which sounds like what you're looking for. You can find them used for cheap, so it might be worth giving it a shot.
     
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    but i've read that the dimarzios are more crunch than heavy....
     
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    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    Not every DiMarzio sounds the same.

    Also, Alternative 8 or Steve's Special?
     
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    The answer to this question is always BlackWinters
     
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    but the black winters are super gritty and more for black metal?

    at this point i'm really lost, i don't want to buy something that i will not like the sound, and i have no money for buying several pickups to compare

    plus, i also need to spend money in the pickup installation because i'm a noob and in the guitar stores here there's not one guitar like me with pickups like this so i can't try them
     
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    What guitar? The nazgul sounds like a different pickup with even minor spec changes.

    I loved a lot of things about the Nazgul. A Lundgren M7 with an Alnico V magnet had all the tightness and clarity of it but with a much less spiky EQ.
     
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    jackson js22 7

    your children of bodom all for nothing solo is great, congratulations
     
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    Maybe try a Full Shred. Or a Pegasus.
     
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    Hate that Nazgul7 Djent-Quack. It was tight and clear though. Throw a dart and you'll be much happier (BKP, Fishmans, etc)
     
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    Dimarzio Evolution (as suggested).
    If you want to stick with Duncans, maybe a Full Shred (as suggested already).
     
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    I'm here to tell you that the Black Winters can do a hell of a lot more than black metal. Sure, it does thrash, death, and black metal beautifully, but with the even EQ that it has, it's capable of so much more.
     
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    +1. It is marketed as an extreme metal pickup, and certainly it is GREAT for that -- but it's the balanced EQ it has that makes it so versatile. It just doesn't have any "spikes" in its EQ that might pigeonhole it into any one genre. It simply has "a lot" of every frequency.

    I have not found a single genre that it can't do. In my experience, the guitar's volume knob sorta becomes an "aggression" knob with the BWs. Roll it off a little and it smooths out and creates excellent hard rock tones. Roll it off even more and you get a dirty blues sound. Max it out and you get total destruction.

    The Nazgul, which I have in another guitar, is more spikey in the upper mids which makes it more dedicated to modern metal tones. In a dark guitar, it still works for more old-school metal tones. I really like it. In the wrong guitar it can give off a djent vibe that can't be dialed out. That won't happen with a Black Winter.
     
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    and can you tell me if the nazgul 7 is wrong for the jackson js22 7?

    in youtube there's only 2 videos and one sounds like recorded with a 1999 webcam and the other shows almost nothing

    and not one video of the jackson js22 with the black winter.....
     
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    What's that Jackson made of?
     
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    poplar, rosewood
     
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    Shouldn't be too bad with that combination.

    I should mention though that I always use an EQ pedal in the effects loop and can "correct" any interaction I don't like. With my Nazgul-equipped guitar I often back off on the 1kHz region a hair.
     
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    I recently got a guitar with a Nazgul installed and I don't have a ton of experience with it yet, but I can say that the Evo 7 would be a step in the right direction. Maybe a D-activator for something slightly hotter and darker overall. Both of those will take care of the upper mid spike that the Nazgul has :yesway:

    As far as another Duncan, I would check out the SH-5 Custom. You may need to back it off of the strings a bit more than normal to get similar clarity, but the overall voicing is more suited to hard rock than djent. It'll still do br00talz if you dig in with your picking hand, though.
     

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