Adding a second noise suppressor

Discussion in 'Gear & Equipment' started by jc986, Dec 6, 2018.

Add another or replace with G-String (or similar)

  1. Add another

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  2. Replace with G-String (or similar)

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  1. jc986

    jc986 Tone Enthusiast Contributor

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    I have an original ISP Decimator that I run in front of my amp, and it has served me well for about 15 years. I want to also run a gate in the loop, so I wanted to get some thoughts on whether it would be better to just add another gate in the loop, or replace my Decimator with a G-string or similar gate to run in 4 cable. I’m not so much concerned about the cost, just whether there is any benefit either way.

    If it matters, my amps are a 6505 and a 6505+, and I run an overdrive and chorus in front of the amp, and an eq, delay, and reverb in the loop.
     
  2. TheWarAgainstTime

    TheWarAgainstTime "TWAT" for short

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    I would get a second dedicated Decimator for the loop, that way you have control over the threshold for both positions rather than one knob on the G-String :2c:
     
  3. MaxOfMetal

    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    :agreed:
     
  4. Vyn

    Vyn Not a Sparkly Vampire Contributor

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    Go a Fortin Zuul and use the key input - gates both the front and the FX loop off of the guitar signal, works a charm.
     
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    Gmork SS.org Regular

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    2 of the new mini decimates!
     
  6. 7 Stringer

    7 Stringer SS.org Regular

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    Second vote for the Zuul with key input,, crazy good gate.

    Two Decimator II works great also with the link function, i have this setup also on my band rig.

    Both work great but the Zull is way more practical. No pedal up front, a two in one.
     
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    LeftOurEyes SS.org Regular

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    The Zuul is a great gate but I disagree with this part. Dont you need a pedal to split the signal to use it before the amp and in the loop? So unless your board already has one (like a boss tuner) then that is something that you'll have to add just to use the Zuul in that way.

    I'd still say get the Zuul or just get another decimator so that you have the two threshold controls.
     
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    Alex79 SS.org Regular

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    Stupid questions, but what would two noise gates achieve that one noise gate cannot achieve on its own?
     
  9. MaxOfMetal

    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    Different parts of the signal chain can impart different levels of noise. Using two gates can help tame that better.

    If using two separate gates with their own threshold control you can work to keep your dynamics by staggering the gates.

    For instance, at the start of your signal you put a gate to take care of your input signal or your pedal board. Then you put one in the loop to aid in any noise that might be coming from your amp.

    Application is important. Some use multiple gates and turn up the threshold to kill overtones (see: djent), while some want more control over just how much noise can get through when working with certain gear and effects.
     
  10. lewis

    lewis SS.org Regular

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    i literally gigged plenty of times with the:

    Keeley > NS2 (also gating efx loop) > Maxon OD808 > ISP Decimator > Amp

    two gates work great. Especially for super tight playing.
     
  11. 7 Stringer

    7 Stringer SS.org Regular

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    You have a point here. But regarding two gates, you need only one with the Zuul.

    But one needs a tuner, might as well take advantage of that extra output!!! That is what i do and it works great.
     
  12. MYGFH

    MYGFH Music your GF hates

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    I have a Rocktron Hush mini tie wrapped to the back of my 6505+. Works great, highly recommend!
     
  13. TheShreddinHand

    TheShreddinHand Uber Stringer

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    2 Decimators linked for me. Works perfectly and everything is super quiet.
     
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    Same here. Since I went with two linked Decimator IIs I've never looked back at anything else.
     
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