A Transgender Metalhead has won a seat in the House of Representatives in Virginia

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by tacotiklah, Nov 7, 2017.

  1. bostjan

    bostjan MicroMetal Contributor

    Messages:
    13,371
    Likes Received:
    1,420
    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2005
    Location:
    St. Johnsbury, VT USA
    Yeah, without conflict, there's no interesting story. I think where it gets weird, though, is where the naysayers seem to be acting out their role as one-dimensional caricatures of the right, in this particular case.

    You could post this OP and someone might come in and say "It sucks because I disagree with the platform on which this candidate ran," but, instead, it came off as "It sucks because I don't even know anything about this particular candidate's platform, nor the platform of the opponent, but I'm assuming that no one else knew either, so therefore it's bad!" Which could further be paraphrased into a cartoony "Grumble grumble get off my lawn nothing's no damn good anymore like the good old days grumble!" to the most casual readers.

    But this could have been a truly interesting conversation, had it been someone who came in here to naysay and actually gave a damn about any of the supported facts.
     
    glassmoon0fo likes this.
  2. Unleash The Fury

    Unleash The Fury SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    1,335
    Likes Received:
    125
    Joined:
    May 16, 2015
    Location:
    CT, USA
    Again though, the sole reason this victory made the news, is strictly because this person is transgender.................when its not necessary to mention that in the first place. Just like when everyone says "who cares what they want to be, they can identify with whatever they want,etc............right, who cares therefore dont mention it in the first place.

    My problem isnt with TG people at all, its the media. Dont agree with my comment? Dont respond to it. That simple
     
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2017
  3. narad

    narad SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    4,992
    Likes Received:
    1,540
    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2009
    Location:
    Cambridge, UK
    You don't have a problem with TG people, yet you insist on calling her "him", and you suggest they should go seek psychiatric help for their condition. It's pretty clear you have problems with both the media and TG people.
     
    AxeHappy likes this.
  4. Unleash The Fury

    Unleash The Fury SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    1,335
    Likes Received:
    125
    Joined:
    May 16, 2015
    Location:
    CT, USA
    Thats not the same thing at all! Just because i think they have a problem, doesnt mean i have a problem with them...............damn man did you fail reading comprehension in school? ;)
     
  5. StevenC

    StevenC SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    1,981
    Likes Received:
    261
    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Location:
    Northern Ireland
    You won't respect her enough to give her the correct pronoun. Maybe you do have a problem.
     
    AxeHappy and xzacx like this.
  6. narad

    narad SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    4,992
    Likes Received:
    1,540
    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2009
    Location:
    Cambridge, UK
    Far from it.
     
    AxeHappy likes this.
  7. Unleash The Fury

    Unleash The Fury SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    1,335
    Likes Received:
    125
    Joined:
    May 16, 2015
    Location:
    CT, USA
    Biology would argue that he is a her
     
  8. StevenC

    StevenC SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    1,981
    Likes Received:
    261
    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Location:
    Northern Ireland
    And I would argue you have a problem with her.
     
    Tech Wrath, AxeHappy, xzacx and 2 others like this.
  9. xzacx

    xzacx SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    817
    Likes Received:
    249
    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2006
    Location:
    cleveland
    Do you not understand that thinking they have a problem is being disrespectful? You can say you don't have a problem with them, and try to convince yourself of that. You may even believe it. But the issue is thinking they have a problem.
     
    AxeHappy and HeHasTheJazzHands like this.
  10. HeHasTheJazzHands

    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

    Messages:
    20,978
    Likes Received:
    2,257
    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2011
    Location:
    Louisiana
    Concern trolling at it's finest.
     
  11. jaxadam

    jaxadam SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    1,308
    Likes Received:
    133
    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2006
    Location:
    Jacksonville, FL
    I just checked the weather. It is snowing up in here.
     
  12. oc616

    oc616 Control Deck Wins

    Messages:
    325
    Likes Received:
    53
    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2012
    Location:
    England
    How to shut down a losing argument: Mention falling frozen water to invalidate the points of a winning side.
     
    Randy likes this.
  13. Explorer

    Explorer He seldomly knows...

    Messages:
    6,393
    Likes Received:
    970
    Joined:
    May 23, 2009
    Location:
    Formerly from Cucaramacatacatirimilcote...
    You made a claim about Obama attempting to force transgendered bathrooms in Africa, which is false.

    You couldn't find support for the lie, but tried to substitute another story which didn't support your lie.

    Now you feel bullied, and are acting like a delicate snowflake.

    Grow a pair, or not. If you just want to whine about how unfair the facts are... again, grow a pair.

    The best part is, you were willing to use insults against people. In this case, you could easily put me in my place, with that same attitude, by simply posting proof for your false claim. That's why people aren't buying that you're holding back on something which would allow you to continue flaunting that attitude.
     
    AxeHappy likes this.
  14. ElRay

    ElRay Mostly Harmless

    Messages:
    3,171
    Likes Received:
    436
    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2006
    Location:
    NoIL
    Yes, because the ignorant, hateful, intolerant, bigoted, religious-Right, christo-fascist Dominionists have been pushing to deny U.S. citizens equal rights justified by their particular interpretation of one particular version of the christian mythology and they currently have the most bigoted, arrogantly-ignorant, racist, pseudo-fascist President and a VP that exactly fits their bill in the White House.
    In this case there is, because the incumbent ran on a platform of ignorance, bigotry, unconstitutional treatment of a segment of the U.S. population, LBGTQ-phobia, lies and out-right fabrications.
    First off, typical mis-quote, take things out of context, quote-mining, straw man nonsense used by the arrogantly-ignorant wing of the GOP.

    Second, your mis-quote is 100% not applicable. Even though we have racist, white-supremesists in the White House, and government in general, we have none that are passing legislation that blatantly denies people rights based on race. We have no politicians that are actively calling people "sick", "deviants", "discussing", "perverted", "ill", etc. or saying that their behavior is threatening/damaging to others or should be criminal, based on their race. We have no politicians falsely equating peadophilla, child abuse, incest and beastiality with race. We have no politicians that are openly saying that specific races can't be in the military, using complete lies and fabrications to justify it. We have no politicians that are openly trying to ban marriage based on race. We have no politicians that are trying to allow/force 100% invalid and damaging pseudo-medical procedures on people to "cure" people of their race. etc. etc. etc.

    The fact that somebody transgendered ran against an ignorant bigot that is against American Ideals AND WON in typically blindly-Red, highly gerrymandered state, is news. And it will continue to be news as long as the institutionalized bigotry is supported.

    It would be nice when mentioning gender vs. sex (and if you don't understand the difference, you're part of the problem) and/or sexual preference becomes gauche, but we're a long way from that.

    Unfortunately you've shown yourself to be part of the christo-fascist (or at least part of the arrogantly ignorant LGBTQ is "icky" so don't talk about it) group, because you spew nonsense like:
    • Thats a physcological problem
    • The same way a pedophile should get some help
    • Pander to a minority group
    • Intentionally use the wrong gender pronoun.
    • a small few are mentally challenged and "confused"
    It's the arrogantly-ignorant, hypocritical, un-american, truth-is-irelevant, facts-are-irrelevant, false-equivocating, intolerant bigots like you that put the Oompa-Loompa and his christo-fascist, Dominionist sidekick in office and use the Constitution as a shield for your ignorance/bigotry when convenient, but actively deny citizens that you deem "icky" the same constitutional protections.

    So yes, you've EARNED all the bile, disgust, venom, etc. directed at you because you have undeniably PROVEN that you are an arrogantly-ignorant bigot that has no problems spewing lies, fabrications, false-equivalents and other nonsense in a failed attempt to justify your arrogantly-ignorant bigotry.
     
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2017
    Vyn, AxeHappy, zappatton2 and 3 others like this.
  15. will_shred

    will_shred not that good.

    Messages:
    2,841
    Likes Received:
    359
    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2012
    Location:
    Rochester NY
    Since the topic has come up, here's what she actually ran on.

    "
    • Traffic: Let's finally fix Route 28 and find a cost-effective way to extend VRE to Innovation Technology Park.
    • Jobs: Incentivize localities to eliminate their BPOL taxes through state economic development grants and finally fill the office vacancies in Manassas Park along Manassas Drive.
    • Schools: Raise teacher salaries in Manassas Park and Prince William County so they are no longer the lowest in Northern Virginia while also providing more money for capital improvement projects that reduce class sizes.
    • Equality: Improving our quality of life starts with equality. I support the DREAM Act, civil rights, voting rights, women's rights, LGBTQ rights, raising the minimum wage and making health insurance more accessible and affordable for everyone.
    "
     
    Anquished and AxeHappy like this.
  16. jaxadam

    jaxadam SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    1,308
    Likes Received:
    133
    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2006
    Location:
    Jacksonville, FL
    Storm has been upgraded to blizzard status.
     
  17. marcwormjim

    marcwormjim SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    1,661
    Likes Received:
    796
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2015
    Location:
    Not here
    I just popped in to post that I am the most offended - making me the victor.
     
  18. bostjan

    bostjan MicroMetal Contributor

    Messages:
    13,371
    Likes Received:
    1,420
    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2005
    Location:
    St. Johnsbury, VT USA
    Just curious, has the "simply stop disagreeing with me" argument ever worked before?

    I mean, I'll just say it flat out: you are wrong.

    +5 internet points to @marcwormjim :lol:
     
    AxeHappy likes this.
  19. eaeolian

    eaeolian Pictures of guitars I don't even own anymore! Super Moderator

    Messages:
    13,467
    Likes Received:
    820
    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2005
    Location:
    Woodbridge, VA
    I am not her constituent - I live in a neighboring district - but this is easy for me to support, as this is my route to work. The VRE extension is a simple fix that makes sense but Richmond under the GOP would have none of it, since "Northern Virginia already gets too much transportation money."

    Where do you think that money comes from, jackasses?
     
    AxeHappy, will_shred and cwhitey2 like this.
  20. Drew

    Drew Forum MVP

    Messages:
    26,519
    Likes Received:
    1,960
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2004
    Location:
    Somerville, MA
    The bit I think you're missing, however, is that:

    1) her opponent was an infamous bigot who was well known in the area as the author of a proposed VA bathroom bill aimed at transgender people, and
    2) her opponent made it a major part of his platform that she was transgender.

    It's getting attention because it's ironic as hell. :lol: You know the other story that got very nearly as much airtime as this one? The boyfriend of the VA-area newscaster who was shot to death on live television ran for a Delegate seat on a gun control platform against a noted gun rights advocate, and HE won too. That one's a little less funny since his story is kind of a tragedy (not that being transgender in VA is a walk in the park, of course), but that's also the reason that it's generated so much attention - that it's ironic that someone who was victimized by a particular platform ran for office and won.
     
    AxeHappy and will_shred like this.

Share This Page