My buddy started playing a few months ago. I gave him an old Ibanez Gio of mine, and he is getting pretty good on it. He is raising up a good amount of money and wants to get his own guitar. He wants an 8 and only wants to go up to around $500. A guy at guitar center told me that any 8 string under $700 isn't worth buying. I'm not an 8 string guy (reason I'm asking you guys) and idk if this is true. Here's the kicker. My buddy is a huge ATB fan and wants to tune down to C#. I may be speaking out my ass here, but I'm pretty sure you need a 28-30 inch scale for that. It doesn't have to be pro level, just something that will hold C# and has a nice sound.