[The Dark Wolf]

Oh. And always remember, there isn't really ANYTHING wrong. Nothing wrong with the heart, nothing wrong with the brain, not going insane...

For me, I just realized, "Wow. I gotta take a shit." Hard to get worked up over something like that, eh?

[The Dark Wolf]

Originally Posted by unconventional

Pharmaceutical Company Pushers, not doctors.

Fixed.

[ZeroSignal]

Originally Posted by unconventional

That's why I hate them. I knew I would leave with nothing yesterday, other than a fucking pill. Took some blood tests to check for B12 and some other crap.

She's convinced it's a chemical imbalance. Imagine. Just by looking at you in the eye, they can make that diagnosis. Guessers, not doctors.

Well, you'd be surprised. A lot of conditions are very easy to see with the naked eye and a doctor would have seen them many times so they make a hypothesis on what they believe to be your condition and then attempt to prove/disprove it with tests.

Oh and vitamins like B12 are very important. I think she's actually checking for gluten intolerance because vitamin absorption is hampered by the damage caused by gluten.

My recommendation would be to go see a dietician.

[The Dark Wolf]

Amazon.com: Digestive Wellness: Elizabeth Lipski: Books

She emphasizes that each person has different biochemistry, and that what works for one will not work for another. Although health professionals can order lab tests (and she explains these tests fully), healing usually involves modifying individual eating habits. Accordingly, Lipski devotes one section to self-care strategies, with the intent of exposing readers to "more plans, new ideas, and the tools to be your own health expert."

She ends with a resource list of nutrition experts, health professionals, laboratories, and suggested reading.

Lipski says that Digestive Wellness "is about taking control of your lifestyle to increase your chances of getting healthier and more vibrant each year." It's an excellent resource for everyone suffering from any kind of digestive disorder and those who care about them.


Attitude is a lot of it, too. In your initial post, you say, "I fought. I lost." Fuck that. Try again. I was so goddamned determined I was NOT going to lose that battle, that I didn't. Make up your mind, and stick to it.

Hope it helps. I don't wish that shit on anybody. If you make up your mind, I believe you can and will overcome it. But it does take time, and lots of effort. Good success.

[unconventional]

Originally Posted by The Dark Wolf

A lot of dealing with panic attacks boils down to raw mental toughness, though. Accept that you have them, and then resist every urge to let them escalate. I always imagined them like a cascade reaction... rollercoaster like. You feel yourself going to the peak, and it's almost inevitable, then WEEEE, away you go, heart racing, until it slows down, and back to normal.

Fuck that.


It takes time, but as soon as you feel the chain reaction begin, you say nope. Not gonna happen on my watch. And resist that bitch with all your strength. It's like weight training, almost, to me. At first it's hard, but then it gets easier and easier. Eventually, you don't even notice.

Good book. Ordered.

Word. I do eat a fair amount of meat. Mostly chicken, tune sometimes, ham wraps sometimes. I'm not vegan. Now with teh shitting. Yes, when I have to shit, it's a major ordeal. When I shit, it comes on fast and I get weird fast. Once I shit, I'm fine. I shit like 8 times a day. Just always had a super fast metabolism.

When I have panic attacks now, I fight them. I tell my self "BULLSHIT" over and over with sort of a Not gonna happen type of attitude and it works. But it's the overall feeling of uneasiness that has me troubled, just an overall feeling of dread, which worsens becuase of my fear that there is something physically wrong with me and fears of death.

Well, if I'm dead, I'll have no more fear, no more anxiety. That's the (+) side to death

Not saying I'm going to kill myself. I just look at it all the wrong fucking way and focus too much on what's wrong, instead of what's right. Since the baby, I've stopped meditating as well and since then it's been progressively worse.

It's funny to talk to other folks that have had them. LOL @ heart racing, peak and WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE


Perfect description.

My last one was at my daughters softball parade, I had to leave the initial gathering to go shit (believe it or not) and after that, total terror. I had to park the car, start walking back to where they were starting and had to lie down on the grass next to a church. Heart pounding, sweating, shaking death. I told God, Kill me or fix me lord. The initial symptoms went away but I missed the parade and was shaky the rest of the day.

Fucking so fucking tired of that. RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Originally Posted by The Dark Wolf

Amazon.com: Digestive Wellness: Elizabeth Lipski: Books

She emphasizes that each person has different biochemistry, and that what works for one will not work for another. Although health professionals can order lab tests (and she explains these tests fully), healing usually involves modifying individual eating habits. Accordingly, Lipski devotes one section to self-care strategies, with the intent of exposing readers to "more plans, new ideas, and the tools to be your own health expert."

She ends with a resource list of nutrition experts, health professionals, laboratories, and suggested reading.

Lipski says that Digestive Wellness "is about taking control of your lifestyle to increase your chances of getting healthier and more vibrant each year." It's an excellent resource for everyone suffering from any kind of digestive disorder and those who care about them.


Attitude is a lot of it, too. In your initial post, you say, "I fought. I lost." Fuck that. Try again. I was so goddamned determined I was NOT going to lose that battle, that I didn't. Make up your mind, and stick to it.

Hope it helps. I don't wish that shit on anybody. If you make up your mind, I believe you can and will overcome it. But it does take time, and lots of effort. Good success.

word man. I hear you. I read a lot of spiritual health type of stuff and the people the create miracles and overcome cancer without any drugs are the people that did not waiver in their resolve to make up their fucking mind. Ultimately it came down to a decision. Cancer victim, or healty person.

[Buzz762]

Kevin, just out of curiosity, how much sleep are you typically getting?

[unconventional]

Not nearly enough. And what's odd is that Sunday I felt like crap in the AM 2 hours after I got up, worked out.

Long story short. I took 2 20 min naps that day and felt great.

The problem is this

4pm leave work
5pm get home
clean and make lunch for next day, etc...
wife gets home at 6pm feeds kid
6:30 - 7:30 play with kid, then give her bath while mom works out and then showers and eats.
8pm kid gets bottle
9pm = my time

I usually stay up till midnight as I like to get 3 hours of playing in, but this is killing me as I have to get up at 6am. I sleep good every night, but I'm constantly tired during the day at my boring ass DBA job. So I think I'm going to start taking naps. I've been reading a great book "how to stop worrying and start living" by Dale Carnegie. He explains that many of the greats of history use to take regular naps and be able to do 16 hour work days without a problem.

My creativity and energy comes out when I'm supposed to be in bed. I have the biological clock of a musician but am stuck in the fucking matrix because I fucked up my life with women and kids. That's the truth. I love my daughters and love them to death and would step in front of a train for them, but I wish I had done things differently back when I was a young idiot. Now I'm an older idiot and my dream of being a musician is shot. So, IMO I'm just a working slave for the benefit of my wife and kids. It must be done and I'm not going to cop out and be a dead beat, but my path got fucked up when I lost the belief way back that I was not good enough to be a musician even though I had endless people hounding me to go for it.

I fucked up my life and the only time I feel alive is when I'm playing hard core metal.

[budda]

sleep.

you didnt fuck up your life, and that attitude will NOT Help you whatsoever.

you can still have your band, play guitar, and have a wife and a daughter and the other things that come with age.

if you really think that for soem reason a wife and kids means no band, then you really do need to think about things. I'm pretty sure a lot of musicians, famous and not, have families.

[TheMissing]

Originally Posted by budda

sleep.

you didnt fuck up your life, and that attitude will NOT Help you whatsoever.

Mind over matter, but a bad attitude will not help man.

Stop blaming yourself for things that happened in the past and try to move on. The more you dwell, the more panic attacks you'll have.

[The Dark Wolf]

Hmm.

There's a lot of shit going on here, Kevin. Where to begin? Problem is, in a setting like this, it's not really conducive to massive information transfer, analysis, and repetition. Which are key to overcoming shit like this. All I can do is throw some tidbits out, and hope the deeper meaning sticks.

1) MUST REMEMBER - there is nothing wrong, you will not die or go crazy. All states induced by the anxiety reaction. Nothing more, nothing less. Your mind MUST rationalize why you feel as you do, and says, "If you don't know, it means YOU'RE GOING TO DIE, ARGH!" I can relate, but as soon as I tied digestion to anxiety, those fuckers lost 90% of their power over me. Seriously. The rest was easy, comparatively.

2) Inner state. If you feel like your truest goal, your reason for living, is GONE, then is will effect your entire life. In monstrous ways. Can't think like that. The greatest power you have is not your job, your sticktoitiveness, or even your family, great as they are. It's your ability, AS A MAN, to develop creative solutions to life's quandaries. It's your God-given challenge on this hunk of rock. Use your brain... don't say, "It can't happen." Say instead, "How can I make it happen?" Saying it can't just shuts the door, and even worse, turns off your brain. Saying "How?" makes you think. The most powerful, greatest computer ever created is your mind. Use it. There are plenty of people who do music and manage the lifestyle of having a family.

Maybe a career change is needed? If so, obviously do it sensibly, but I found out, and here is where the root of my 'strength' lies, that there was NOTHING ON EARTH worth feeling the awful terror of panic attacks for. Nothing. I essentially reached the end of my road, and there, found new strength. Strength to pursue my goals, to overcome anxiety, to educate myself on the tools necessary to success, and to really be the happy, fun-loving fuck I essentially am.


I actually coached my mom and my fiance to overcome anxiety issues. Its a tough road, no doubt, but definitely an achievable goal. And I think the real key to inner happiness is setting and achieving goals.