Wizard or Wizard II?

neroceasar · 05-09-2008, 04:25 AM

whats the difference? I love my 1077xl neck but i don't think it's a wizard...

ibznorange · 05-09-2008, 05:04 AM

On 6 string necks, the wizard II is about 2mm thicker down the middle, the whole way down the neck, than a wizard/superwizard (sw is like a degree rounder than the wizard)
On 7's its more like a mm thicker, and theyre a bit flatter

Mattmc74 · 05-09-2008, 10:03 AM

Vegetta · 05-09-2008, 10:29 PM

I have guitars with both and really the difference isn't really noticeable

ibznorange · 05-10-2008, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegetta

I have guitars with both and really the difference isn't really noticeable

I am TOTALLY gonna disagree with you on that one

I really just dont get on with the wizard too well anymore, used to love it, but its too thin for me. The wizard 2 is the nicest 6 string profile ive used on a production guitar imo

FortePenance · 05-10-2008, 02:28 AM

Noticeable to me... I'm twiddling on an RG450 w/ wizard neck and it feels a lot skinnier than the the Wizard II. This is esp. true if you're comparing 7 string necks.

Arctodus · 05-10-2008, 03:13 AM

Original wizard does not have a flat spot on the back.

Wizard II does this "U" shape with a flat spot on the back, I suppose so your thumb has better articulation. Wizard II also is slightly thicker

Funny to me because the wizard is skinnier yet it feels more comfortable then the odd shape of the wizard II.

Mattayus · 05-10-2008, 08:57 AM

See, I can't comment on the difference, because I have an unfair test.
I have an ibby RG350dx (wizard II), and an RG7620 (Wizard) but one's a 6 string, and the other a 7, so i can't really tell!

Unknown Doodl3.2 · 05-10-2008, 12:54 PM

Wizard II.= 19mm@first fret and 21@twelth fret, D shape, broad shoulders flat and thin
Wizard....= 18mm@first fret and 20@twelth fret, C shape, rounder, skinnier
S. Wizard= 17mm@first fret and 20@twelth fret, C shape, like wizard but very smlightly skinnier and asymmetrical

The only Super Wizard neck I've ever played was on a J custom RG9000 series (9670 to be exact) which In my opinion is the best Guitar Ibanez has ever made. The asymmetrically of the neck gives it more grip all the while being ultra thin and verrry fast. The wizards however are the standard for an Ibanez shred neck.

Toshiro · 05-10-2008, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Doodl3.2

Wizard II.= 19mm@first fret and 21@twelth fret, D shape, broad shoulders flat and thin
Wizard....= 18mm@first fret and 20@twelth fret, C shape, rounder, skinnier
S. Wizard= 17mm@first fret and 20@twelth fret, C shape, like wizard but very smlightly skinnier and asymmetrical

The only Super Wizard neck I've ever played was on a J custom RG9000 series (9670 to be exact) which In my opinion is the best Guitar Ibanez has ever made. The asymmetrically of the neck gives it more grip all the while being ultra thin and verrry fast. The wizards however are the standard for an Ibanez shred neck.

That's the Current "Wizard Prestige" neck you have listed as a Wizard, the original Wizard neck and and the "Super Wizard" are identical in spec. The S-W feels different because of finishing and the Bubinga Strip(which is what makes it a "Super").

The Super Wizards were not supposed to be asymmetrical, and none of the one's I've played have been. They were just the updated Wizard neck used on the RG5xx guitars from about 1998 to the early 00's.

Now, there are about 2-3 other "Wizard" profiles used on J-Customs, but that's a whole other story.

05-09-2008, 04:25 AM	#1
neroceasar DEATHMETAL!!!!!!!!! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: grand rapids, mi Posts: 334 Real Name: clay Main Seven: Ibanez rg1077xl prestige Rig: MAKO>RIVERA Thanked: 8	Wizard or Wizard II? whats the difference? I love my 1077xl neck but i don't think it's a wizard...

05-09-2008, 05:04 AM	#2
ibznorange Chief Officer/RHLC © Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 8,070 Real Name: Max Main Seven: Dean Vendetta 1.7 Rig: None Thanked: 55	On 6 string necks, the wizard II is about 2mm thicker down the middle, the whole way down the neck, than a wizard/superwizard (sw is like a degree rounder than the wizard) On 7's its more like a mm thicker, and theyre a bit flatter Reverse Headstocks or Bust ALL HEIL THE ADMINISHREDDER!

05-09-2008, 10:03 AM	#3
Mattmc74 Mr.Chug Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: bay city, michigan Posts: 4,593 Real Name: Matt Main Seven: Ibanez RG7421 Rig: Marshall>Randall Cab Thanked: 85 $Mattmc74 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Mattmc74 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Mattmc74 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Mattmc74 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Mattmc74 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Mattmc74 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Mattmc74 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	^ I want a ziploc rain coat. zepp88 Originally Posted by yellowv Matt does awesome work, but knows his shit. The average schmo's guitar isn't going to come out looking like that after a homemade cavity fill and repaint. Its a skinny Tito Ortiz!-Originally Posted by Tiger

05-09-2008, 10:29 PM	#4
Vegetta ss.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Near Morgantown WV Posts: 2,195 Real Name: Rick Main Seven: cb rg1527 Rig: ADA mp1/ SpiderII Thanked: 16	I have guitars with both and really the difference isn't really noticeable this space for rent

05-10-2008, 08:57 AM	#8
Mattayus Sir Groove-A-Lot Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cambridgeshire, UK Posts: 2,720 Real Name: Matt Main Seven: Ibanez RG7620GN Rig: Peavey Banditt 112 Thanked: 73 $Mattayus is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Mattayus is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Mattayus is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Mattayus is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Mattayus is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Mattayus is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Mattayus is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	See, I can't comment on the difference, because I have an unfair test. I have an ibby RG350dx (wizard II), and an RG7620 (Wizard) but one's a 6 string, and the other a 7, so i can't really tell! www.soundclick.com/mattayus http://www.mysoundclinic.com Ibanez RG3EX1 for sale

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05-10-2008, 02:28 AM	#6
FortePenance twoheadsarebetter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 3,624 Real Name: Simon Rig: Line 6 Thanked: 23	Noticeable to me... I'm twiddling on an RG450 w/ wizard neck and it feels a lot skinnier than the the Wizard II. This is esp. true if you're comparing 7 string necks.

05-10-2008, 03:13 AM	#7
Arctodus ss.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Naptown, MD Posts: 51 Rig: Microcube Thanked: 5 / 1	Original wizard does not have a flat spot on the back. Wizard II does this "U" shape with a flat spot on the back, I suppose so your thumb has better articulation. Wizard II also is slightly thicker Funny to me because the wizard is skinnier yet it feels more comfortable then the odd shape of the wizard II.

05-10-2008, 12:54 PM	#9
Unknown Doodl3.2 look at each other.. Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 2,271 Real Name: Claude Rig: Mark III -> Vader Thanked: 21 $Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	Wizard II.= 19mm@first fret and 21@twelth fret, D shape, broad shoulders flat and thin Wizard....= 18mm@first fret and 20@twelth fret, C shape, rounder, skinnier S. Wizard= 17mm@first fret and 20@twelth fret, C shape, like wizard but very smlightly skinnier and asymmetrical The only Super Wizard neck I've ever played was on a J custom RG9000 series (9670 to be exact) which In my opinion is the best Guitar Ibanez has ever made. The asymmetrically of the neck gives it more grip all the while being ultra thin and verrry fast. The wizards however are the standard for an Ibanez shred neck.

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