Drop F# on a six string baritone?

distressed_romeo · 03-25-2008, 12:42 PM

I've been missing my six string bari', tuned to C standard, recently, and while laying in bed battling insomnia last night, I was wondering how F#C#F#BD#G# or F#F#BEG#C# (like Variant's tuning on his transcale guitar) tuning would work on it.

Anyone tried this before?

Rick · 03-25-2008, 02:27 PM

Holy crap, that's low.

Desecrated · 03-25-2008, 02:27 PM

Dare I even ask how thin your strings are ?

TomAwesome · 03-25-2008, 04:11 PM

I don't see why not as long as you get appropriate gauges.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Holy crap, that's low.

'Round these parts, F# isn't that low :P

sakeido · 03-25-2008, 04:17 PM

I tune my standard scale SLSMG to GGCFAD with a 56 low G. It sounds woofy though, Sikth style. But is cool for riffs that make nice use of pedal tones. Not very practical for anything fast with galloping triplets, but if I tune it up to Ab it tightens up just enough to play relatively tight. You sacrifice a lot of overtones this way - that gives it the woofy sound with a mid-scooped amp (my Mark IV with the mids fully cut) or a really growly aggressive sound (my Stiletto with mids boosted), but it also makes pinch harmonics on the low string sound boring, even though you can get crazy vibrato on them. But if you lock it in with a bass, it GROOVES.

If you can keep your picking hand under control, it is 100% usable. Sounds cool. Really makes you think outside the box musically. I love the riffs I come up with in that tuning.. try it out. Its sweet.

distressed_romeo · 03-25-2008, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakeido

I tune my standard scale SLSMG to GGCFAD with a 56 low G. It sounds woofy though, Sikth style. But is cool for riffs that make nice use of pedal tones. Not very practical for anything fast with galloping triplets, but if I tune it up to Ab it tightens up just enough to play relatively tight. You sacrifice a lot of overtones this way - that gives it the woofy sound with a mid-scooped amp (my Mark IV with the mids fully cut) or a really growly aggressive sound (my Stiletto with mids boosted), but it also makes pinch harmonics on the low string sound boring, even though you can get crazy vibrato on them. But if you lock it in with a bass, it GROOVES.

If you can keep your picking hand under control, it is 100% usable. Sounds cool. Really makes you think outside the box musically. I love the riffs I come up with in that tuning.. try it out. Its sweet.

That's kinda what I'd figured. I wouldn't try a tuning like that for super-fast, technical riffery; it would be more for the trippy, wierd-out riffs.

I've just spent this evening djenting away in drop F# on my Hellraiser (F#C#F#C#F#A#D#) and it rocks... It would be pretty cool to have a guitar specially set up for it.

Desecrated: I generally string pretty light. If I was to actually set up my bari' for this I'd probably go for a 70 as the bottom string.

I'll mull it over for a while and decide whether or not I'd miss having a dedicated guitar in C tuning...

Rick · 03-25-2008, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomAwesome

'Round these parts, F# isn't that low :P

I meant on a 6, that's low. :P

distressed_romeo · 03-25-2008, 04:40 PM

To put it in perspective, there's apparently a death metal band that tunes to F standard on regular sixes, although I can't remember the name...

TomAwesome · 03-25-2008, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

I meant on a 6, that's low. :P

My 6 is currently tuned to Bb below that

shadowgenesis · 03-25-2008, 04:57 PM

erm. hate to point it out, but that's basically what Wes Borland did, cept he did away w/ the 2 high strings when he got his customs. I've messed around w/ that before, but not with a proper setup or string set. Even so, i did manage to have a little fun with it and it'd be cool to fuck around with if you've got a guitar free. I'd probably fuck around with the other strings to get some more droney options in there, but i'd def like to hear what you come up w/ if you try it

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomAwesome

My 6 is currently tuned to Bb below that

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