"Trem King, the fixed bridge vibrato system"

Lucky Seven · 01-04-2008, 05:07 PM

What an awesome design!

vansinn · 01-04-2008, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durero

..it's very similar to the Ibanez Zero-Point system, they both use a layer of cushioning material so that when the tone block meets the back-stop bar there's little or no contact sound.

Having tried it I wouldn't expect to hear any clicks when the bar meets the zero-point unless you remove the cushioning material and set the trem action at maximum stiffness.

Sounds quite sane. They should've mentioned the cushion; guess many will ask the question of possible zero-point noises.

Another look revealed they do use pins, not rollers. Looks like graphite pins, not polymer, still not sure. though.. First time I've seen a whammy working with strings gliding over fixed points.
This is exactly what I discussed with Graphtec (very good customer support BTW), though not having my system at hand of cause they couldn't promise strings would have a perfect glide over their teflon impreganted polymer saddles.

Guess I'll make the order to see. I'm considering D'Addario HSR semi-polished wound lower strings to ease slipping over those saddles.
I mention this as it may be of interest for use with the Trem King whammy - they do mention potential string wear on the saddle pins over time..

Jongpil Yun · 01-04-2008, 05:28 PM

Sounds cool, especially how you can change tunings without affecting the other strings.

HamBungler · 01-04-2008, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vansinn

Sounds quite sane. They should've mentioned the cushion; guess many will ask the question of possible zero-point noises.

Another look revealed they do use pins, not rollers. Looks like graphite pins, not polymer, still not sure. though.. First time I've seen a whammy working with strings gliding over fixed points.
This is exactly what I discussed with Graphtec (very good customer support BTW), though not having my system at hand of cause they couldn't promise strings would have a perfect glide over their teflon impreganted polymer saddles.

Guess I'll make the order to see. I'm considering D'Addario HSR semi-polished wound lower strings to ease slipping over those saddles.
I mention this as it may be of interest for use with the Trem King whammy - they do mention potential string wear on the saddle pins over time..

it said in the video the actual string bending occurs inside the tone block, so the teflon saddle-bar thing is acting more as a softer material for the strings to bend on perhaps? That's my guess.

ShawnFjellstad · 01-04-2008, 10:55 PM

this looks awesome.
do want.

FortePenance · 01-05-2008, 12:22 AM

It does indeed look awesome. They need a direct replacement for a floyd though, that be so bitchin'.

vansinn · 01-05-2008, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by vansinn
First time I've seen a whammy working with strings gliding over fixed points.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HamBungler

it said in the video the actual string bending occurs inside the tone block, so the teflon saddle-bar thing is acting more as a softer material for the strings to bend on perhaps? That's my guess.

Sure, the bending takes place inside, but the bended strings will glide over the pins, else no change in pitch would take place. Definately looks like graphite.
Strings gliding over fixed points have been seen many times before, but hasn't worked too good; it's the slippery graphite that does it here.

Damn, unless the Trem King pops up on production guitars, I won't have much chance trying on out here in Cph; our luthiers aren't big enough to carry uncommon stuff unless asked to take it home for a build.

urklvt · 01-05-2008, 07:42 AM

I was watching the vid thinking, "hmm, guy's good, but I need to work out!!" lol

Cool design!

Codyyy · 01-05-2008, 01:14 PM

This guy on another site I'm a part of did a full review of them - thinks they're the greatest thing since sliced bread.

GearScore : Portal KnowledgBase

Oh and he says they might be looking into Floyd retrofit designs.

Concerto412 · 01-05-2008, 02:43 PM

strat lovers enter the world of Kahler thinking...
does look pretty cool, and i must respect that its sanely priced. well under the kahlers, floyds, hipshots, or Stetsbar trems. i want to try the tele version, but not as badly as i want them to make it in a 7

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ShawnFjellstad hates womanizers. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: California, USA, fra Bergen, Norge Posts: 4,198 Real Name: Shawn Rig: Framus Dragon, Mindy Thanked: 37	this looks awesome. do want. I'm typing this on my knees with my butt in the air. -Drew

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FortePenance twoheadsarebetter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 3,497 Real Name: Simon Rig: Microcube Thanked: 21	It does indeed look awesome. They need a direct replacement for a floyd though, that be so bitchin'. holy fuck!

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Lucky Seven Lucky☆Seven Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sugar Land, TX Posts: 2,008 Real Name: Kyle O. Main Seven: RG7620 Rig: Peavey XXX Thanked: 54	What an awesome design!

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Jongpil Yun Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,246 Real Name: JP Main Seven: RG 7620 (VK) Thanked: 25	Sounds cool, especially how you can change tunings without affecting the other strings.

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Concerto412 Aeternae Sonus Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kingston, ON; CAN Posts: 115 Real Name: Andrew Main Seven: S7320-evo/blaze neck Rig: Duoverb/RT902 > 4x12 Thanked: 2 / 1	strat lovers enter the world of Kahler thinking... does look pretty cool, and i must respect that its sanely priced. well under the kahlers, floyds, hipshots, or Stetsbar trems. i want to try the tele version, but not as badly as i want them to make it in a 7

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