Low F# on a 25.5" scale 6-string?

WarriorOfMetal · 07-14-2007, 03:47 PM

my friend wants me to setup his USA Jackson Rhoads with the lowest string "as low as possible"....ideally he wants an F#. i think he's planning on using a .70 for it. is this likely to work well at all, and are we probably gonna have to drill out the tuner hole a bit?

Battousai · 07-14-2007, 04:00 PM

definately would need to drill it a bit.. i had to for my jackson when i tuned to B with thick strings

MF_Kitten · 07-14-2007, 04:12 PM

i think G is the deepest you should go on a 6 string, thinking about intonation and inharmonicity...

a .70 might be a little thin, depending on how you like your strings... i´m getting a .70 string to tune to G... i would reccomend something larger, like a .75 or .80 bass string or so, but don´t take my word on it, ask around...

this guy uses a .80 for that tuning...

ohio_eric · 07-14-2007, 10:03 PM

Bob (TDW) uses a .068 Elixir for low F on his 25.5" scale 7 with no complaints from him. So it could work. Though I doubt I would do it.

nyck · 07-14-2007, 10:27 PM

I would probably use a .090 bass string for F#@25.5
Everybody has different tastes...
I used to have a .085@27" and I liked that tension/feel a lot.

All_¥our_Bass · 07-14-2007, 10:47 PM

How do you cut a bass 80 short enough for the tunning posts without it unwinding? I'm getting a sixer and tunning it F#C#G#D#A#F (and sometimes FCGDAE).

nyck · 07-14-2007, 11:31 PM

You unwind the second winding and feed the inner core of the string thru the tuning hole :]

zimbloth · 07-14-2007, 11:41 PM

I liked .068 on a 27" for F#, meaning .070 on a 25.5 should be fine. 85 or 90 would be like using a 60 for your E string, doesnt add up to me. I'd maybe go as heavy as a .074.

TomAwesome · 07-15-2007, 02:45 AM

.070 should be okay, depending on how you like your strings to feel. I used to occasionally tune my .056 down to low Eb an octave below the string next to it. It worked well enough on my 25.5" scale, though I guess something thicker would really work better. My only reason for mentioning that I did it with a .056 is to demonstrate that you shouldn't need to use crazy thick strings unless you just want to.

WarriorOfMetal · 07-15-2007, 11:51 AM

oh i just remembered, my friend picks pretty hard....i think thin/loose strings would give him troubles.

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nyck blah! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 3,039 Real Name: Nick Main Seven: no 7 Rig: Mesa .50 Caliber Thanked: 2	I would probably use a .090 bass string for F#@25.5 Everybody has different tastes... I used to have a .085@27" and I liked that tension/feel a lot.

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nyck blah! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 3,039 Real Name: Nick Main Seven: no 7 Rig: Mesa .50 Caliber Thanked: 2	You unwind the second winding and feed the inner core of the string thru the tuning hole :]

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zimbloth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 11,039 Real Name: Nick Main Seven: Rico Jr Customs Main ERG: Ibanez 8 Rig: VHT Pittbull UL Thanked: 59	I liked .068 on a 27" for F#, meaning .070 on a 25.5 should be fine. 85 or 90 would be like using a 60 for your E string, doesnt add up to me. I'd maybe go as heavy as a .074.

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