[Stitch]

What you are describing is a gravure finish, sir. They were quite big in the 80's on the cheap-ish inputs so people ended up forking out a lot for a pretty looking particleboard guitar
Not great. They look alright, but really, since you seem so obsessed with a blue quilt top, get one. A real one. Please.

[NickCormier]

Originally Posted by stitch216

What you are describing is a gravure finish, sir. They were quite big in the 80's on the cheap-ish inputs so people ended up forking out a lot for a pretty looking particleboard guitar
Not great. They look alright, but really, since you seem so obsessed with a blue quilt top, get one. A real one. Please.

Yah I am gonna get a real one, but on my main guitar.. which will be a custom 7 im gonna get next year from either kxk or Brutalizer guitars... But Theres a certain 6 string I dreamt of owning, and I don't wanna fork out another $2000 or whatever for that... sooo really have no other choice but to do it myself, with a photo finish or something

[metalfiend666]

Originally Posted by NickCormier

Yea I was wondering if the fabric one would be similar.. but since veneer's are pieces of paper, not fabric. would be different

Actually veneer's are very thin slices of real wood.

[NickCormier]

Originally Posted by metalfiend666

Actually veneer's are very thin slices of real wood.

yea but they dont bend, least the ones i had.. And even then, they wont bend like fabric to cover the aroundings of a guitar

i meant like paper-esqe.. like really thin =[[

[metalfiend666]

The Universal Jems stuff will. Read the tutorial Technomancer posted the link to.

[JJ Rodriguez]

Sometimes if your veneer is thicker, you may have to steam it a bit to get it to bend, like over the arm contour, which is tricky, since you want to glue it, and if it's wet, it won't glue properly. There's a tutorial on project guitar on how to apply a veneer properly.

EDIT: oops, I see Technomancer already linked to the tutorial.

[NickCormier]

Yea... hey JJ, Have you ever done a veneer job before? Maybe I could go up to Freddy one weekend and you could help me lol

[JJ Rodriguez]

Originally Posted by NickCormier

Yea... hey JJ, Have you ever done a veneer job before? Maybe I could go up to Freddy one weekend and you could help me lol

I have never done anything like that before. Despite all the posts I make that may make me sound like I know what I'm doing, I have never actually built a guitar/refinished one. I do all my own tech work and I sanded down my 7420 and filled in the trem post holes (although I havn't refinished it or re-drilled the holes, because of lack of tools). I however have been wanting to build a guitar for ages, and have read every tutorial on projectguitar.com, and read Melvyn's Hiscock's book a gazillion times. I'm broke as hell right now, and once I sell that RG7CT, I'm paying a couple bills, and blowing the rest on tools. I wouldn't mind helping you with the veneer job though, although I doubt you want to trust that to someone with no real experience such as me. BTW, do you have relatives in Fredericton? I work with someone with the last name Cormier.

[NickCormier]

Originally Posted by JJ Rodriguez

I have never done anything like that before. Despite all the posts I make that may make me sound like I know what I'm doing, I have never actually built a guitar/refinished one. I do all my own tech work and I sanded down my 7420 and filled in the trem post holes (although I havn't refinished it or re-drilled the holes, because of lack of tools). I however have been wanting to build a guitar for ages, and have read every tutorial on projectguitar.com, and read Melvyn's Hiscock's book a gazillion times. I'm broke as hell right now, and once I sell that RG7CT, I'm paying a couple bills, and blowing the rest on tools. I wouldn't mind helping you with the veneer job though, although I doubt you want to trust that to someone with no real experience such as me. BTW, do you have relatives in Fredericton? I work with someone with the last name Cormier.

Uhh I dont think I have any relatives there, but there are soo many Cormiers, In Moncton there are about 5-6 pages in the phonebook with this last name, and I personally know like 3 other Nick Cormiers too =[[ Luckily I have all the main names, like Hotmail, Ebay, etc lol

Yea, I dunno if I'll go through with the guitar, I been wanting to build one for ages also, but my experiance is very low, and so far my Kelly there wasnt really a success so Im not sure I wanna take a chance on something actually costing me money lol.. But who knows, One of these days I might attempt it, probably this upcoming summer because if I could build even a decent playing guitar, That would be really awesome. I doubt I would play it much (enough to care if it was quality wise a RG350 or a RG2550) so might attempt building a neckthru Kelly soon..

I figured the hardest part is going to be getting the scale correct, setting the intonation and then the finish, and I think I could at least get the scale right, maybe the intonation good enough and then somehow get the finish with a veneer or vinyl sticker or something, however they do it for the cheaper guitars (Ibanez SZ520's top is wonderful, I love it, or Schecter Acoustics)

If I do get one made, I'll be sure to bring it down to freddy and let you take a look lol, although since you have a RG7CT you would probably like find any of my RG5xx's or SZ520's crap, let alone something I build lol

[JJ Rodriguez]

Originally Posted by NickCormier

Uhh I dont think I have any relatives there, but there are soo many Cormiers, In Moncton there are about 5-6 pages in the phonebook with this last name, and I personally know like 3 other Nick Cormiers too =[[ Luckily I have all the main names, like Hotmail, Ebay, etc lol

Yea, I dunno if I'll go through with the guitar, I been wanting to build one for ages also, but my experiance is very low, and so far my Kelly there wasnt really a success so Im not sure I wanna take a chance on something actually costing me money lol.. But who knows, One of these days I might attempt it, probably this upcoming summer because if I could build even a decent playing guitar, That would be really awesome. I doubt I would play it much (enough to care if it was quality wise a RG350 or a RG2550) so might attempt building a neckthru Kelly soon..

I figured the hardest part is going to be getting the scale correct, setting the intonation and then the finish, and I think I could at least get the scale right, maybe the intonation good enough and then somehow get the finish with a veneer or vinyl sticker or something, however they do it for the cheaper guitars (Ibanez SZ520's top is wonderful, I love it, or Schecter Acoustics)

If I do get one made, I'll be sure to bring it down to freddy and let you take a look lol, although since you have a RG7CT you would probably like find any of my RG5xx's or SZ520's crap, let alone something I build lol

I don't think getting the scale correct would be anywheres near the hardest part. I imagine getting the neck angle planed and everything would be the hardest. You can buy a miter box and fret scale templates to give you a perfect fret board, and if your bridge is off a tiny little bit, then you can just adjust the intonation, unless you're off by quite a bit. Things like the neck angle and carving a volute, where there isn't really any template/jig to make for it, IMO that would probably be the difficult parts. I'm sure a luthier will come in here and set us straight though For instance, I know how to calculate a neck angle, it's the implementing of it that scares me, on a neck through anyways. Carving a top would be another difficult task for new builders too I imagine. I would really like a carved top on the guitar I build, but I imagine something like that might be saved for a 2nd, or 3rd guitar.