LACS Brainstorming Session

7 Dying Trees · 11-09-2011, 07:04 AM

I have a form to fill out by monday on a new custom, but as yet:

- No idea on body wood
- No idea on colour
- Still wondering what inlay to do, whether to match it to the current lacs, or go for something sdifferent, or keep it in the same vein (on the lacs it is the sigil of Pazuzu, the lord of all fevers and plagues)
- no idea on neckwoods/construction
- fingerboard I do like rosewood, but tinking of seeing if there's another fun wood that can be used.

Things I do know:
- Neckthrough
- Volute
- Reverse Headstock
- Headstock matched to body
- Flachion body shape
- Either H/S/H or H/H pup config
- Killswitch
- pup switch probably 5-way as do prefer that and don't massively get on with toggle switches, although open to ideas
- 1 vol, 1 tone
- Some kind of funky inlay
- White marbled binding as on the uv777
- glow in the dark side dots, with black centres

Guitars I like:
- love the j-custom maple top mahogony i got recently
- swamp ash maple neckthrough maple topped lacs is ace as well
- like the woody sound out of the uv7pwn i've got, but this may be down to the nice bit of wood in it.

So, recommendations, ideas, links to fn logos that could be uised for inlays purposes, everything welcome in this thread.

just for reference, here's the current lacs I have:

go!

7 Dying Trees · 11-09-2011, 07:06 AM

Oh, here's a link to the kind of original specs for the previous lacs as well:

New Page 0

Malkav · 11-09-2011, 07:19 AM

Lo pro bridge, H-H, 5-way

7 string preferable

Edit: Neutrik locking output jack

Tremol-No

Colour scheme - Flamed maple top in a really electric light green with a thin black burst around the edges. Think body colour as being the colour of Rob's burst - the green being the main colour not the burst in this case though. Chrome hardware

Rook · 11-09-2011, 07:20 AM

I had this recently. For the first time ever, I've actually had to come up with a finalised spec sheet for a custom guitar, I've only ever been on waiting lists or bought pre-made custom shop guitars haha.

Things I thought of:

Rosewood necks - look amazing, feel amazing, and the sound is sort of a taste thing but that also narrows down body wood selection. I went for an Alder body with the Rosewood because rosewood not as bright as maple, but has a rich attack, so went to pick the brightness back up with Alder.

If you want a good all round body wood, Swamp Ash is nice because it attacks like a more dense wood but has the thickness in sound of something like Mahogany. Not too heavy either.

If you do just want to stick with something more familiar (similar to maple I mean) there are woods like Ovangkol which have a lot in common with maple but have a different aesthetic; I don't particularly like it personally but you might.

So.

If you go for Rosewood and Alder, you could whack a solid finish on that, Loch Ness Green for example but it would mean hiding a portion of that GORGEOUS rosewood as you're going neck thru so maybe get a maple cap with a flat or something, get the top finished once colour (green or purple maybe, match Allender

) and leave the back glossed or oil finished?

There are some ideas for you anyway. Kinda how my though process went.

I'm having the body of my guitar finished in a solid pearl white but the neck is going to be bare, oiled rosewood. I'm not having inlays because I like black board, but I am having my fret markers made more interesting on the side of the neck. MOP Blocks or something.

loktide · 11-09-2011, 07:23 AM

i'd go with satin white or purple finish +black bevels and an ebony board for the falchion shape, personally.

Stealthdjentstic · 11-09-2011, 07:25 AM

Mahogany body and burl maple top stained?

Prydogga · 11-09-2011, 07:32 AM

Ash body with 5 piece neckthrough

Grey/Black Flame Maple Top

HH/HSS setup w/ Zebra pickups

Chrome/Black Chrome hardware

Lo Pro or the new tight end if you're going a 6.

Ibanez Prestige Logo on headstock in pearloid

Example of top colour

Example of wood and neck wood

snowblind56 · 11-09-2011, 07:44 AM

5 Piece Flame Maple/Purpleheart Neck Thru
Swamp Ash Body Wings
Cocobolo Fretboard
Highly Figured Walnut Top with Matching Peghead
Clear Gloss Finish
Chrome Hardware

Konfyouzd · 11-09-2011, 07:48 AM

Swamp Ash (Do they do that? If not, mahogany) and a figured maple cap w/ the neck showing through on the front

And a satin finish...

Stealthdjentstic · 11-09-2011, 07:51 AM

Actually necermind figured woods if its a falchion shape. Solid colour alder body with a pale moon ebony board would look evil as hell.

Stealthdjentstic · 11-09-2011, 07:53 AM

Also ITT:

We spec out our dream LACS and hope James builds it

Konfyouzd · 11-09-2011, 07:58 AM

Should have read better. Didn't realize that was the shape...

Xiphos68 · 11-09-2011, 08:29 AM

Rosewood neck with purple-heart stripes down the middle.
Rosewood necks feel awesome imo as well.

Koa Body wood? Something different? With a quilt-maple top.

Otherwise I'd go with a Mahogany with a thick Quilt-maple top.
Some exotic fretboard would really rad.

EDIT: How about 27 or 28 frets too?

motomoto · 11-09-2011, 08:32 AM

mahogany wings
5 piece maple/wenge neck
rosewood fretboard
flame maple top(since you got a quilt already)
deep blue stain with black burst edges
H-H config
1 push-push knob (master volume and pickup switch)

and here is an inlay idea since you're in the mood for this stuff

Tiamat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Louis Cypher · 11-09-2011, 08:48 AM

inlays you could always go for some hr giger style stuff... take it to a level Ibanez never did with the Giger model's? or Norse gods and myths, Tyr is the God of Single Combat

Quote:

The Rites of Odin by Ed Fitch published in 1990 through Llewellyn says that Tyr is "the invincible warrior of the Nordic pantheon, and far older than all the others of Asgard." He is said to have sacrificed his right hand to help bind Fenrir, the wolf who, when set free, is destined to devour the Sun. It is thought by scholars that he may have been the original father-god of the archaic Indo-Europeans, long before the dawn of our histories."

Fretboard the pale moon ebony looks incredible imo

tank · 11-09-2011, 01:25 PM

balducci's are awesome!

leonardo7 · 11-09-2011, 02:15 PM

Exotic woods are all good but Ive never played a rosewood neck or koa body etc so Id be hesitant to make such an important decision based upon woods Ive never used. Youve already got a swamp ash one and you really like the J Custom. I too have an RG8527z and its pretty nice. I would do a neck thru J Custom with inlays of your choice. It would be neck thru so a little brighter than your current J custom because of the maple neck thru. To darken it a little maybe maybe get it with two mahogany stringers or one purpleheart stringer down the middle with two mahogany stringers or vice versa, something like a mayones neck with the mahogany wings. It would have maple neck binding which is awesome. Thats probably what I would do. Maybe even consider the RGA body carve. So yeah, neck thru J custom style sounds like a winning guitar.

Strawberry Man · 11-10-2011, 01:41 AM

A seven string Falchion with the chameleon paint like the Xiphos would be sick.

Hollowway · 11-10-2011, 01:50 AM

Yeah I'd vote for a solid color too, but with different colored bevels. That falchion shape is pretty sweet. And I love that inlay, so I'd be inclined to keep it and just make that your thing. But I think Stealth has an awesome idea for the pale moon ebony FB. It has that dirty blackened look.

djpharoah · 11-10-2011, 01:56 AM

Maple neckthru with poplar wings and a see thru maple top. The maple neck thru will give it great bite, the poplar gives a great thick and bright sound, the maple top would just accentuate it for a bit more brightness.

The top can actually be something that you might not need imo.

Stealthdjentstic · 11-10-2011, 01:58 AM

Maybe that combo won't be bright enough.

theo · 11-10-2011, 02:00 AM

Any colour but black!

Purple or green maybe?

Rojne · 11-10-2011, 02:21 AM

Combine this with what you've already decided that you want..

Neck:
5 piece Mahogany/Wenge
Ebonized Rosewood fretboard
The Pazuzu inlay, no other fret markers (besides the side dots)

Body:
Mahogany w/ Flame-maple top (think the RGT's where you can see the neck-stripes through the body)
Dark vintage stain finish ...or a really dark green stain!
H-H configuration (zebra's!!!)
Lo-Pro Edge or Tight-end bridge
Chrome hardware

Im not really fond of the Flachion, but these specs would be cool either 6 or 7 stringed!

Thrashmanzac · 11-10-2011, 02:48 AM

im guessing you are set on the rg shape? if not hope about the 540pii shape?

JPMike · 11-10-2011, 04:14 AM

I'd go Korina/maple top with ebony board. (I already am, lol).

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11-09-2011, 07:04 AM	#1
7 Dying Trees Sarcy English Twat Join Date: May 2004 Location: 7th Ethereal Plane of interstellar hell, Innit Bruv, Safe, London, UK Posts: 8,869 Thanked: 139 Feedback Score: 41 reviews	LACS Brainstorming Session I have a form to fill out by monday on a new custom, but as yet: - No idea on body wood - No idea on colour - Still wondering what inlay to do, whether to match it to the current lacs, or go for something sdifferent, or keep it in the same vein (on the lacs it is the sigil of Pazuzu, the lord of all fevers and plagues) - no idea on neckwoods/construction - fingerboard I do like rosewood, but tinking of seeing if there's another fun wood that can be used. Things I do know: - Neckthrough - Volute - Reverse Headstock - Headstock matched to body - Flachion body shape - Either H/S/H or H/H pup config - Killswitch - pup switch probably 5-way as do prefer that and don't massively get on with toggle switches, although open to ideas - 1 vol, 1 tone - Some kind of funky inlay - White marbled binding as on the uv777 - glow in the dark side dots, with black centres Guitars I like: - love the j-custom maple top mahogony i got recently - swamp ash maple neckthrough maple topped lacs is ace as well - like the woody sound out of the uv7pwn i've got, but this may be down to the nice bit of wood in it. So, recommendations, ideas, links to fn logos that could be uised for inlays purposes, everything welcome in this thread. just for reference, here's the current lacs I have: go! The Chaos has come: www.chaosanct.com

11-09-2011, 07:06 AM	#2
7 Dying Trees Sarcy English Twat Join Date: May 2004 Location: 7th Ethereal Plane of interstellar hell, Innit Bruv, Safe, London, UK Posts: 8,869 Thanked: 139 Feedback Score: 41 reviews	Oh, here's a link to the kind of original specs for the previous lacs as well: New Page 0 The Chaos has come: www.chaosanct.com

11-09-2011, 07:20 AM	#4
Rook Electrifying Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: London Posts: 7,552 Thanked: 109 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	I had this recently. For the first time ever, I've actually had to come up with a finalised spec sheet for a custom guitar, I've only ever been on waiting lists or bought pre-made custom shop guitars haha. Things I thought of: Rosewood necks - look amazing, feel amazing, and the sound is sort of a taste thing but that also narrows down body wood selection. I went for an Alder body with the Rosewood because rosewood not as bright as maple, but has a rich attack, so went to pick the brightness back up with Alder. If you want a good all round body wood, Swamp Ash is nice because it attacks like a more dense wood but has the thickness in sound of something like Mahogany. Not too heavy either. If you do just want to stick with something more familiar (similar to maple I mean) there are woods like Ovangkol which have a lot in common with maple but have a different aesthetic; I don't particularly like it personally but you might. So. If you go for Rosewood and Alder, you could whack a solid finish on that, Loch Ness Green for example but it would mean hiding a portion of that GORGEOUS rosewood as you're going neck thru so maybe get a maple cap with a flat or something, get the top finished once colour (green or purple maybe, match Allender ) and leave the back glossed or oil finished? There are some ideas for you anyway. Kinda how my though process went. I'm having the body of my guitar finished in a solid pearl white but the neck is going to be bare, oiled rosewood. I'm not having inlays because I like black board, but I am having my fret markers made more interesting on the side of the neck. MOP Blocks or something. Formerly known as Fun111, don't be thrown off by the avatar!!!!!! My Soundcloud My project on Facebook: Rook

11-09-2011, 07:25 AM	#6
Stealthdjentstic Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canadia Posts: 19,969 Thanked: 338 Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Mahogany body and burl maple top stained? Rook likes this.

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11-09-2011, 07:19 AM	#3
Malkav Washing your dishes. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Cape Town, S.A Posts: 649 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Lo pro bridge, H-H, 5-way 7 string preferable Edit: Neutrik locking output jack Tremol-No Colour scheme - Flamed maple top in a really electric light green with a thin black burst around the edges. Think body colour as being the colour of Rob's burst - the green being the main colour not the burst in this case though. Chrome hardware

11-09-2011, 07:23 AM	#5
loktide dotlike Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 5,048 Thanked: 84 Feedback Score: 12 reviews	i'd go with satin white or purple finish +black bevels and an ebony board for the falchion shape, personally.

11-09-2011, 07:32 AM	#7
Prydogga Giddyup. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Apartment 5B, New York (Vic, Australia) Posts: 10,505 Thanked: 81 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ash body with 5 piece neckthrough Grey/Black Flame Maple Top HH/HSS setup w/ Zebra pickups Chrome/Black Chrome hardware Lo Pro or the new tight end if you're going a 6. Ibanez Prestige Logo on headstock in pearloid Example of top colour Example of wood and neck wood M E M O I R S Music from myself and Kurkkuviipale! http://soundcloud.com/m-e-m-o-i-r-s I also do graphic design, both freelance and for label Myriad Records.

11-09-2011, 07:44 AM	#8
snowblind56 SS.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Manitowoc, WI Posts: 2,524 Thanked: 53 Feedback Score: 34 reviews	5 Piece Flame Maple/Purpleheart Neck Thru Swamp Ash Body Wings Cocobolo Fretboard Highly Figured Walnut Top with Matching Peghead Clear Gloss Finish Chrome Hardware

11-09-2011, 07:48 AM	#9
Konfyouzd Dread-I Master Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mars Posts: 15,665 Thanked: 191 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Swamp Ash (Do they do that? If not, mahogany) and a figured maple cap w/ the neck showing through on the front And a satin finish... "... and on either side of the river was the tree of life. The leaves of this tree were for the healing of nations." "He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle and the herb for the service of man." "Lifes too short to hate Floyd Roses."

11-09-2011, 07:51 AM	#10
Stealthdjentstic Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canadia Posts: 19,969 Thanked: 338 Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Actually necermind figured woods if its a falchion shape. Solid colour alder body with a pale moon ebony board would look evil as hell. Hollowway and Konfyouzd like this.

11-09-2011, 07:53 AM	#11
Stealthdjentstic Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canadia Posts: 19,969 Thanked: 338 Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Also ITT: We spec out our dream LACS and hope James builds it Razzy likes this.

11-09-2011, 07:58 AM	#12
Konfyouzd Dread-I Master Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mars Posts: 15,665 Thanked: 191 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Should have read better. Didn't realize that was the shape... "... and on either side of the river was the tree of life. The leaves of this tree were for the healing of nations." "He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle and the herb for the service of man." "Lifes too short to hate Floyd Roses."

11-09-2011, 08:29 AM	#13
Xiphos68 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Earth Posts: 6,555 Thanked: 187 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Rosewood neck with purple-heart stripes down the middle. Rosewood necks feel awesome imo as well. Koa Body wood? Something different? With a quilt-maple top. Otherwise I'd go with a Mahogany with a thick Quilt-maple top. Some exotic fretboard would really rad. EDIT: How about 27 or 28 frets too? Konfyouzd likes this. Have a question about The Gospel or prayer request, PM me. Happy to help and God Bless! Band: www.facebook.com/whisperfromheaven For fans of Melodic-Metal. "Once you have entered the Ocean... You have entered the food chain." - Dad

11-10-2011, 02:48 AM	#24
Thrashmanzac plays in 69/42 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Melbourne, VIC Posts: 3,780 Thanked: 53 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im guessing you are set on the rg shape? if not hope about the 540pii shape? ...Each guitarist has an evil fat 40 year old blueswankler trying to get out, If you give in to temptation you'll be sitting next to a fender playing john lee hooker while trying to keep your combover in place. -Desecrated being black and enjoying watermelon, i think this thread needs more watermelon. budda

11-09-2011, 08:32 AM	#14
motomoto SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2009 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 207 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	mahogany wings 5 piece maple/wenge neck rosewood fretboard flame maple top(since you got a quilt already) deep blue stain with black burst edges H-H config 1 push-push knob (master volume and pickup switch) and here is an inlay idea since you're in the mood for this stuff Tiamat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

11-09-2011, 01:25 PM	#16
tank SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2010 Location: udine-italy Posts: 237 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	balducci's are awesome! shred or die! my shots! http://tanky92.deviantart.com/gallery/

11-09-2011, 02:15 PM	#17
leonardo7 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,492 Thanked: 110 Feedback Score: 21 reviews	Exotic woods are all good but Ive never played a rosewood neck or koa body etc so Id be hesitant to make such an important decision based upon woods Ive never used. Youve already got a swamp ash one and you really like the J Custom. I too have an RG8527z and its pretty nice. I would do a neck thru J Custom with inlays of your choice. It would be neck thru so a little brighter than your current J custom because of the maple neck thru. To darken it a little maybe maybe get it with two mahogany stringers or one purpleheart stringer down the middle with two mahogany stringers or vice versa, something like a mayones neck with the mahogany wings. It would have maple neck binding which is awesome. Thats probably what I would do. Maybe even consider the RGA body carve. So yeah, neck thru J custom style sounds like a winning guitar.

11-10-2011, 01:41 AM	#18
Strawberry Man ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Victoria, BC Posts: 59 Thanked: 2 / 1 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	A seven string Falchion with the chameleon paint like the Xiphos would be sick.

11-10-2011, 01:50 AM	#19
Hollowway SS.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: California Posts: 6,349 Thanked: 105 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Yeah I'd vote for a solid color too, but with different colored bevels. That falchion shape is pretty sweet. And I love that inlay, so I'd be inclined to keep it and just make that your thing. But I think Stealth has an awesome idea for the pale moon ebony FB. It has that dirty blackened look.

11-10-2011, 01:56 AM	#20
djpharoah Awwww Yeaaaah • Super Moderator • Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Cali' Posts: 13,214 Thanked: 321 Feedback Score: 119 reviews	Maple neckthru with poplar wings and a see thru maple top. The maple neck thru will give it great bite, the poplar gives a great thick and bright sound, the maple top would just accentuate it for a bit more brightness. The top can actually be something that you might not need imo.

11-10-2011, 01:58 AM	#21
Stealthdjentstic Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canadia Posts: 19,969 Thanked: 338 Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Maybe that combo won't be bright enough.

11-10-2011, 02:00 AM	#22
theo Ibanez whore Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Melbourne, Au Posts: 3,126 Thanked: 37 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Any colour but black! Purple or green maybe? thatguy5557123 likes this.

11-10-2011, 02:21 AM	#23
Rojne Growing my hair.. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Deep woods, Sweden Posts: 885 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Combine this with what you've already decided that you want.. Neck: 5 piece Mahogany/Wenge Ebonized Rosewood fretboard The Pazuzu inlay, no other fret markers (besides the side dots) Body: Mahogany w/ Flame-maple top (think the RGT's where you can see the neck-stripes through the body) Dark vintage stain finish ...or a really dark green stain! H-H configuration (zebra's!!!) Lo-Pro Edge or Tight-end bridge Chrome hardware Im not really fond of the Flachion, but these specs would be cool either 6 or 7 stringed! yeah

11-10-2011, 04:14 AM	#25
JPMike Totally Random Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 2,077 Thanked: 44 $JPMike is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $JPMike is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $JPMike is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $JPMike is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $JPMike is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $JPMike is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $JPMike is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I'd go Korina/maple top with ebony board. (I already am, lol).

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