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Unread 09-13-2011, 11:05 AM   #26
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.... that money making bullshit "tribute". Do something real and donate money to the families and those with health issues due to the attack.
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"The guitars are the brainchild of Minnesota firefighter Tommy Clarke, who, a decade ago, was on the scene of the World Trade Center within 24 hours after disaster struck. In the years afterward, he collected pins, badges, medals and other commendation related to the three New York agencies and to Sept. 11. The decorations that adorn the three guitars are from his collection.

Although not a guitarist, Clarke conceived of the guitars in the mid-2000s after receiving an invitation to a New York “Notes For Hope” fund-raising banquet for the city’s Sept. 11 memorial and museum.

“Even though I don’t play guitar, I thought it would a good way for me to honor those who perished on Sept. 11 and those who are still suffering,” he said. “And I always loved sitting back and listening to my son play guitar. That’s when I thought of a guitar. I’ve always felt as if music and art combined together is a good way for a person to express his feelings.”

Clarke also happens to be a longtime friend of Eric Clapton, and it was Clapton that put Clarke in touch with the Fender Custom Shop, where Master Builder Todd Krause was entrusted with bringing the idea to life. Krause had built several instruments for Clapton over the years, and he and Clarke exchanged ideas—one of which led to the custom finish graphics by New York artist Lee Quinones.

“I’m on the West Coast, and I have a list of people who I refer to,” Krause said. “But Tommy and I were discussing artists, and we both felt it was really important that it be a New York artist. It had to be a New York artist.” Quinones was enlisted, and in no time Clarke had a complete set of guitar designs. “I had a strong vision of what I wanted,” Clarke said. “The biggest problem with the guitars was that there’s not a lot of real estate. Each guitar tells a story, and the hardest part was to paint the tragedy while still portraying ourselves as emerging triumphant.”

Is anyone reading the ....ing article at all? Why is is so bad a firefighter who was at the scene of the attacks want to create something to honor those that perished and Fender made his vision a reality?
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It still seems weird.
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Right guys in 10 or so years Ibanez will realease 11 March 2011 Fukushima tribute models.

Of all the crazy shit japs do, i'm pretty sure they won't do that.

That means something about those Fender tributes.

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Yeah, its good they're being donated and IMO any charity is good charity, but something about those guitars seems very awkward.
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"The guitars are the brainchild of Minnesota firefighter Tommy Clarke, who, a decade ago, was on the scene of the World Trade Center within 24 hours after disaster struck. In the years afterward, he collected pins, badges, medals and other commendation related to the three New York agencies and to Sept. 11. The decorations that adorn the three guitars are from his collection.....

....Quinones was enlisted, and in no time Clarke had a complete set of guitar designs. “I had a strong vision of what I wanted,” Clarke said. “The biggest problem with the guitars was that there’s not a lot of real estate. Each guitar tells a story, and the hardest part was to paint the tragedy while still portraying ourselves as emerging triumphant.”

Is anyone reading the ....ing article at all? Why is is so bad a firefighter who was at the scene of the attacks want to create something to honor those that perished and Fender made his vision a reality?
Yeah I did read the article and IMO theses guitars are a strange idea in the first place but ones that have been taken up by Fender should have and could have been alot more successful than they are. They have been poorly executed. They do look cheap and tacky and the idea that they tell a story or portray the American people (and every other nationality that died as well inc 67 brits was it?) triumph over the catastrophe.... they fail to do that. A proper memorial in guitar form or any from should speak to both the tragedy and to the hope that people can take out of it, should'nt celebrate what happened that day but mark that day and celebrate the positives that have come out of that ten years on.... All three just look like a Fire Brigade style strat and two police based strats one with dodgy art work of a policeman holding up some wreckage (yes one is for the port service but unless you live in NYC or your american your not gonna know that) To me, i don't see which bit of the design and art work reflects either 9/11 or the ten years since? (and I mean that without having to read the full blurb on each guitar to understand what each part and badge and colour represents....

I think Fender should have taken this guys ideas and done so much more with it than they have....
as an example couple of images off google all I did was do a search for "9/11 tributes"... and on the first page I found theses and theses speak more to me immediately about that day and the memory's, this is what the guitars should have tried to portray...



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Yeah I did read the article and IMO theses guitars are a strange idea in the first place but ones that have been taken up by Fender should have and could have been alot more successful than they are. They have been poorly executed. They do look cheap and tacky and the idea that they tell a story or portray the American people (and every other nationality that died as well inc 67 brits was it?) triumph over the catastrophe.... they fail to do that. A proper memorial in guitar form or any from should speak to both the tragedy and to the hope that people can take out of it, should'nt celebrate what happened that day but mark that day and celebrate the positives that have come out of that ten years on.... All three just look like a Fire Brigade style strat and two police based strats one with dodgy art work of a policeman holding up some wreckage (yes one is for the port service but unless you live in NYC or your american your not gonna know that) To me, i don't see which bit of the design and art work reflects either 9/11 or the ten years since? (and I mean that without having to read the full blurb on each guitar to understand what each part and badge and colour represents....

I think Fender should have taken this guys ideas and done so much more with it than they have....
as an example couple of images off google all I did was do a search for "9/11 tributes"... and on the first page I found theses and theses speak more to me immediately about that day and the memory's, this is what the guitars should have tried to portray...

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True, they could have done a lot better with the designs. I am just talking more the intent of it all and people calling it a "Money Making Venture" when it has been stated numerous times that they will be donated to the foundations.

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True, they could have done a lot better with the designs. I am just talking more the intent of it all and people calling it a "Money Making Venture" when it has been stated numerous times that they will be donated to the foundations.
Thats true dude, I mean I did forget that bit when I did the OP that they were clearly not for sale...
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Something subtle would have gone a VERY long way...these are terrible.
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errr that leaves a nasty taste in my mouth...



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Yeah I did read the article and IMO theses guitars are a strange idea in the first place but ones that have been taken up by Fender should have and could have been alot more successful than they are. They have been poorly executed.
They're custom shop guitars made to the specifications of the person requesting them. Should they have made them the guitars he wanted, or the guitars they think he sould have wanted?
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A musical instrument is totes inappropes because a musical instrument is a tool, and a tool is an inelegant place to put a message or sentiment, especially one as grave and focused as that concerning 9/11. (On top of that, it's just poor art IMO.) The medium, the contexts in which you find the medium, and the artistic peculiarities just don't approach the gravity of the subject in a way that does anything except cheapen the memory. That's just my opinion, though. I wasn't there and it's obviously a very personal subject and their hearts are in the right place, but just me, thinking of the scope of the event and the worldwide suffering of so many kinds that has followed it, I dunno about this, man...
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They're custom shop guitars made to the specifications of the person requesting them. Should they have made them the guitars he wanted, or the guitars they think he sould have wanted?
They were made for donation to services who experienced a horrific event, as such more thought could have been put into the design to make them be a bit more tasteful imo (If they really needed to be done at all). I know the guy who thought up the designs was there, but it's being made for other people and to represent a tragic event so you need to look at the bigger picture and how people might react.
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yeah i'm totally glad every one agrees with me that that is total shit...

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They were made for donation to services who experienced a horrific event, as such more thought could have been put into the design to make them be a bit more tasteful imo (If they really needed to be done at all). I know the guy who thought up the designs was there, but it's being made for other people and to represent a tragic event so you need to look at the bigger picture and how people might react.
Then that's on the guy who requested them, not Fender, is all I'm saying.

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Then that's on the guy who requested them, not Fender, is all I'm saying.
Fender still made them and backed it though. They could've said 'you know, maybe some people might get upset by this'.
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Fender still made them and backed it though. They could've said 'you know, maybe some people might get upset by this'.
I honestly don't know why anyone would be upset about it. This isn't another money-making scheme where a company is trying to capitalize on the tragedy, despite how much all the people in here who didn't read the article seem to think it is. Does anyone honestly think when this guy, a fireman himself, presents the guitar to the FDNY, someone there is going to be anything buy touched?

Yes, the wreckage depicted represents a tragedy, but it's also a powerful, iconic image that represents the sacrifice they all made and the memories of their fallen bretheren. That would be cheapened if it were being mass produced and sold to anybody with the money to do it, but they're being donated. It's hardly the first time a symbol of tragedy has been used to bring people together (ie the Atomic Dome in Hiroshima, or the Christian Cross).

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For me, it represents the commercialisation of an event. It may not be produced for profit, but it feels corporate and I dunno...I just don't like it. Maybe it's cos I'm British, we view and treat events like this differently.
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I have to ask, are they MIM strats?
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