What guitar am I describing?

Rook · 02-01-2011, 04:41 PM

I'm about at my wits' end trying to find a guitar that'll do. I know whatever I get I'll be happy with, but I can't satisfy myself enough that I want something to let go of the money.

I play a lot of very jazzy music, but like to rock out every now and again, I do have a UV though so it doesn't need to cover any extreme territory.

Here's what I like...

High end, don't want a Schecter or something, it'll most likely be USA made, but I haven't ruled out the Japanese brandfs
Double cut, strat-like shape (not SG type).
Ideally bolt on, but not crucial.
Rosewood or Ebony boards, generally Rosewood. Not Maple though.
I'm not fussed by 22 or 24 frets, I'd probably take 22 if I was doing a custom build, but it's not crucial.
It has to have a trem, this is essential.
Mahogany or Alder body.

I've thought of
PRS Customs (which I'm revisiting), but they're pricey
Jackson USA Soloists but they're very bright, I already have an RR1 and they're pretty hard to find around here
Ibanez JEM's, one of which I've already had and as cool as they are, they're not for me and I have a UV
Music Man, Morse or Petrucci, but I've had a Petrucci and just didn't clck with it, I can't for the life of me find a standard Morse with a trem that isn't blue. I hate blue!
ESP, been there, done that, had 2 standards and got bored of them. Don't like the 'image' they carry, as gay as that sounds.

Anybody? I'd appreciate any sensible suggestions...

AvantGuardian · 02-01-2011, 05:21 PM

Carvin? They've got a number of bolt-on models and I'd say the quality is pretty high-end.

Rook · 02-01-2011, 05:42 PM

I couldn't try one, too risky. Very very good suggestion though, i'll see if there's anything Carvin for sale around London.

Variant · 02-01-2011, 05:42 PM

Jazzy, but rock out... I'm with the above. Carvin. Holdsworth model in particular.

stryker1800 · 02-01-2011, 05:53 PM

Suhr, just bought a pro modern, since you don't want maple you can get them with Pau Ferro which I understand is similar to rosewood. I don't know what their pickups are like for really jazzy stuff but they certainly aren't high output.

xeL · 02-01-2011, 06:00 PM

PRS CE series, theres a particularly nice CE22 on eBay right now that shouldn't go for a whole load.

motomoto · 02-01-2011, 06:12 PM

^what he said + a set of P-Rails for ultimate versatility

davidb1986 · 02-01-2011, 06:43 PM

What about a Music Man Silhouette? They're American made, Strat-like shape, bolt on neck, can have rosewood or ebony fretboard. Sounds like the guitar you described to me.

Underworld · 02-01-2011, 06:50 PM

+1 to the Musicman Silhouette these are awesome guitars.

SirMyghin · 02-01-2011, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AvantGuardian

Carvin? They've got a number of bolt-on models and I'd say the quality is pretty high-end.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fun111

I couldn't try one, too risky. Very very good suggestion though, i'll see if there's anything Carvin for sale around London.

Carvin bolt ons are quite excellent, they are about as good as you can do for a reasonable price without going full custom. They are often overlooked due to the low USA price (I know they gouge internationally unfortunately), but are on par with their other builds, they do not have less awesome, just easier to build so cheaper.

I have a contour, you have seen the mods I did to that guitar so I thought it was worth while (those mods on whole are around 500+$) on a guitar that was 1300 USD at the time or something (+ shipping etc)

ItWillDo · 02-01-2011, 07:10 PM

How about a Caparison TAT/Dellinger/Horus? If I had money this is what I'd go for.

jl-austin · 02-01-2011, 08:03 PM

Never mind, didn't see the no ESP at first, sorry.

Although, it sure does sound like you want an ESP (except without what ever image you have of them)!

Grand Moff Tim · 02-01-2011, 08:20 PM

Don't forget to look in to G&L.

EDITED TO ADD: Like maybe a Legacy Deluxe.

Bloody_Inferno · 02-01-2011, 08:31 PM

Have you considered Vigier or Tom Anderson?

Also what about J-Customs?

Demiurge · 02-01-2011, 09:44 PM

OP- you're looking for high-end, but the PRS SE Torero at about $1k looks like it would match most of your criteria. They are sharp-looking and I've heard good things.

SirMyghin · 02-01-2011, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grand Moff Tim

Don't forget to look in to G&L.

EDITED TO ADD: Like maybe a Legacy Deluxe.

A very good point, I overlooked them (shame on me) but those should be available to try in the UK. That onei s ridiculous. They have a knew steel saddle/steel block trem out too the "DFS" (dual fulcrum steel) as well as added SS frets as an option (but wouldn't do it for me in August...

)

jordanky · 02-01-2011, 10:36 PM

Tom Anderson guitars are super nice, but they have a hefty price tag for the most part, but they have some of the most unbelievable tops I've ever seen.

Grand Moff Tim · 02-01-2011, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirMyghin

A very good point, I overlooked them (shame on me) but those should be available to try in the UK. That onei s ridiculous. They have a knew steel saddle/steel block trem out too the "DFS" (dual fulcrum steel) as well as added SS frets as an option (but wouldn't do it for me in August...

)

I'm GASing pretty damned hard for an SC-2 these days.

Dvaienat · 02-02-2011, 07:20 AM

I think you want a USA Jackson DK1. It's exactly what you want. It can be had for just over £1200. Comes in loads of different finishes. You're bound to find one you like. Plus, Jackson quality is top notch. Amazing guitars.

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If you like neck-thru and mahogany, maybe an SL2H-MAHQ:
Jackson® Guitars : The Bloodline

I'd personally recommend the SL2H-MAHQ or the SL2H-MAH.

jymellis · 02-02-2011, 07:28 AM

ibanez S - series?

Rook · 02-02-2011, 02:00 PM

Mmmm lots to think about...

Amazing response thanks.

I've always digged the Jacksons, they're definitely right up there in the list.

PRS I like the idea of, but have played literally hundreds of the buggers and have never quite connected with one. Then again, I've never been playing one with the intention of buying, just noodling. My shop was a pretty big PRS stockist until recently...

I really really really really like Tom Anderson, but new they're just way out of my price range, and trying a used one has proven pretty tough. One of Tom Andersons I tried I absolutely fell in love with but it belongs to a friend of mine and me loving it makes him love it even more because he knows I don't have it!

Suhr are too expensive I think, unless a good used one comes up in the states. Nice on paper, but again the ones I've tried I've never quite bonded with. I'd probably take an Anderson over one anyhow and they're cheaper used...

I was planning on picking up an SSS Silo in the near future anyway, so that doesn't come into this. I like them, but not for my everyday stuff.

I hate G&L, don't ask me why, I don't know lol.

I unfortunately associate Vigier with cheap shit, they sold some pretty awful imports around the EU for a long time and I've never gotten that image out of my head, I'll have a look for one though. They do seem to be in that Anderson/Suhr kinda boat, which again I'd probably take an Anderson from. Good thought though.

If I were swayed by a Caparison, I'd save myself a couple of grand and buy a 1995 Japanese Dinky, nicer headstock, same build, sold. Some japanese guitars just lack soul...

I've never played a J-Custom and I'm not taking a gamble that expensive. I've definitely seen some I'd love to own for not too bad money though.

I think that covers it.

Thanks dudes, I'll rep some folks and get back onto google/ebay.

darren · 02-02-2011, 02:22 PM

How about a Mayones Setius Pro?

Setius PRO 6

Bloody_Inferno · 02-02-2011, 05:40 PM

There's plenty of used J-Customs that go for a fraction of the price of a new one. They usually turn up on the bay or the other Japanese stores like Ikebe.

Some other suggestions:

James Tyler Guitars Tyler Guitars

Valley Arts Guitars pre-Gibson, pre-Samick Valley Arts Guitars
They do insist on being pre-Gibson and pre-Samick...

I was going to suggest G-Life guitars but the price tag is pretty steep.

Elmoman · 02-02-2011, 06:07 PM

Suhr Modern? Or classic. Great quality guitars. You're looking for humbuckers or singles?

kevyp12 · 02-02-2011, 10:28 PM

youve dissmissed every good guitar out there... maybe what youre looking for.. is a new instrument. just quit haha

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02-01-2011, 04:41 PM	#1
Rook Electrifying Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: London Posts: 7,315 Thanked: 108 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	What guitar am I describing? I'm about at my wits' end trying to find a guitar that'll do. I know whatever I get I'll be happy with, but I can't satisfy myself enough that I want something to let go of the money. I play a lot of very jazzy music, but like to rock out every now and again, I do have a UV though so it doesn't need to cover any extreme territory. Here's what I like... High end, don't want a Schecter or something, it'll most likely be USA made, but I haven't ruled out the Japanese brandfs Double cut, strat-like shape (not SG type). Ideally bolt on, but not crucial. Rosewood or Ebony boards, generally Rosewood. Not Maple though. I'm not fussed by 22 or 24 frets, I'd probably take 22 if I was doing a custom build, but it's not crucial. It has to have a trem, this is essential. Mahogany or Alder body. I've thought of PRS Customs (which I'm revisiting), but they're pricey Jackson USA Soloists but they're very bright, I already have an RR1 and they're pretty hard to find around here Ibanez JEM's, one of which I've already had and as cool as they are, they're not for me and I have a UV Music Man, Morse or Petrucci, but I've had a Petrucci and just didn't clck with it, I can't for the life of me find a standard Morse with a trem that isn't blue. I hate blue! ESP, been there, done that, had 2 standards and got bored of them. Don't like the 'image' they carry, as gay as that sounds. Anybody? I'd appreciate any sensible suggestions... Formerly known as Fun111, don't be thrown off by the avatar!!!!!! My Soundcloud My project on Facebook: Rook

02-01-2011, 05:21 PM	#2
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02-01-2011, 05:42 PM	#3
Rook Electrifying Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: London Posts: 7,315 Thanked: 108 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	I couldn't try one, too risky. Very very good suggestion though, i'll see if there's anything Carvin for sale around London. Formerly known as Fun111, don't be thrown off by the avatar!!!!!! My Soundcloud My project on Facebook: Rook

02-01-2011, 06:43 PM	#8
davidb1986 ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 185 Thanked: 11 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What about a Music Man Silhouette? They're American made, Strat-like shape, bolt on neck, can have rosewood or ebony fretboard. Sounds like the guitar you described to me. 1986 Lotus MIJ '62 RI Stratocaster Copy-Lake Placid Blue All Stock 1988 Takamine EF349 all Mahogany Acoustic/Electric-Dark Mahogany all stock 2001 Gibson Les Paul Custom-Black Gibson Burstbucker 1 & 2 PUs 2011 Raven West RM300DX LP Custom copy-Green Lizard Quilt/Satin Gold HW PRS #7 PUs 2011 Paul Reed Smith Singlecut SE-Scarlet Red/Gold HW PRS VB and HFS PUs 5 Way Rotary Knob 2011 Paul Reed Smith Tremonti Tribal SE-Black, Tremonti Tribal decal PRS Dragon II B and #6 T PUs

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02-01-2011, 05:42 PM	#4
Variant Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: All-white-tukee, Arizona Posts: 5,657 Thanked: 82 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Jazzy, but rock out... I'm with the above. Carvin. Holdsworth model in particular.

02-01-2011, 05:53 PM	#5
stryker1800 Sweet Pickle Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Grenville, SC Posts: 345 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Suhr, just bought a pro modern, since you don't want maple you can get them with Pau Ferro which I understand is similar to rosewood. I don't know what their pickups are like for really jazzy stuff but they certainly aren't high output.

02-01-2011, 06:00 PM	#6
xeL SS.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Yorkshire, UK Posts: 153 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	PRS CE series, theres a particularly nice CE22 on eBay right now that shouldn't go for a whole load.

02-01-2011, 06:12 PM	#7
motomoto SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2009 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 207 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^what he said + a set of P-Rails for ultimate versatility

02-01-2011, 06:50 PM	#9
Underworld SS.org Regular Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,025 Thanked: 31 Feedback Score: 17 reviews	+1 to the Musicman Silhouette these are awesome guitars.

02-01-2011, 07:10 PM	#11
ItWillDo SS.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Posts: 264 Thanked: 8 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How about a Caparison TAT/Dellinger/Horus? If I had money this is what I'd go for.

02-01-2011, 08:03 PM	#12
jl-austin SS.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: austin Posts: 1,185 Thanked: 8 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Never mind, didn't see the no ESP at first, sorry. Although, it sure does sound like you want an ESP (except without what ever image you have of them)! Revelation 20:12

02-01-2011, 08:20 PM	#13
Grand Moff Tim Some call me... Tim Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Cheongju, SK Posts: 3,590 Thanked: 63 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Don't forget to look in to G&L. EDITED TO ADD: Like maybe a Legacy Deluxe.

02-01-2011, 08:31 PM	#14
Bloody_Inferno Silence is Violence Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 12,057 Thanked: 244 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Have you considered Vigier or Tom Anderson? Also what about J-Customs? http://www.cracked.com/article_15231_7-reasons-21st-century-making-you-miserable.html http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-...better-person/ http://www.cracked.com/article_18817_5-reasons-future-will-be-ruled-by-b.s..html http://www.cracked.com/article_15663_10-things-christians-atheists-can-must-agree-on.html http://www.cracked.com/article_14990...keysphere.html http://www.cracked.com/article_19468...you-think.html

02-01-2011, 09:44 PM	#15
Demiurge Intrepid Jackass Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Worcester, MA Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	OP- you're looking for high-end, but the PRS SE Torero at about $1k looks like it would match most of your criteria. They are sharp-looking and I've heard good things. "I like Christian rock. It's very positive. It's not like those real musicians who think they're so cool and hip." -George Costanza

02-02-2011, 07:20 AM	#19
Dvaienat ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK Posts: 743 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think you want a USA Jackson DK1. It's exactly what you want. It can be had for just over £1200. Comes in loads of different finishes. You're bound to find one you like. Plus, Jackson quality is top notch. Amazing guitars. Jackson® Guitars : The Bloodline If you like neck-thru and mahogany, maybe an SL2H-MAHQ: Jackson® Guitars : The Bloodline I'd personally recommend the SL2H-MAHQ or the SL2H-MAH.

02-02-2011, 07:28 AM	#20
jymellis Talk To DeWalt Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: sinsi ohio Posts: 9,197 Thanked: 88 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	ibanez S - series?

02-02-2011, 02:00 PM	#21
Rook Electrifying Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: London Posts: 7,315 Thanked: 108 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	Mmmm lots to think about... Amazing response thanks. I've always digged the Jacksons, they're definitely right up there in the list. PRS I like the idea of, but have played literally hundreds of the buggers and have never quite connected with one. Then again, I've never been playing one with the intention of buying, just noodling. My shop was a pretty big PRS stockist until recently... I really really really really like Tom Anderson, but new they're just way out of my price range, and trying a used one has proven pretty tough. One of Tom Andersons I tried I absolutely fell in love with but it belongs to a friend of mine and me loving it makes him love it even more because he knows I don't have it! Suhr are too expensive I think, unless a good used one comes up in the states. Nice on paper, but again the ones I've tried I've never quite bonded with. I'd probably take an Anderson over one anyhow and they're cheaper used... I was planning on picking up an SSS Silo in the near future anyway, so that doesn't come into this. I like them, but not for my everyday stuff. I hate G&L, don't ask me why, I don't know lol. I unfortunately associate Vigier with cheap shit, they sold some pretty awful imports around the EU for a long time and I've never gotten that image out of my head, I'll have a look for one though. They do seem to be in that Anderson/Suhr kinda boat, which again I'd probably take an Anderson from. Good thought though. If I were swayed by a Caparison, I'd save myself a couple of grand and buy a 1995 Japanese Dinky, nicer headstock, same build, sold. Some japanese guitars just lack soul... I've never played a J-Custom and I'm not taking a gamble that expensive. I've definitely seen some I'd love to own for not too bad money though. I think that covers it. Thanks dudes, I'll rep some folks and get back onto google/ebay. Formerly known as Fun111, don't be thrown off by the avatar!!!!!! My Soundcloud My project on Facebook: Rook

02-02-2011, 02:22 PM	#22
darren Decibel Guitars Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Greater Toronto Area, Canada Posts: 11,471 Thanked: 75 Feedback Score: 9 reviews	How about a Mayones Setius Pro? Setius PRO 6 web \| facebook \| twitter

02-02-2011, 05:40 PM	#23
Bloody_Inferno Silence is Violence Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 12,057 Thanked: 244 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	There's plenty of used J-Customs that go for a fraction of the price of a new one. They usually turn up on the bay or the other Japanese stores like Ikebe. Some other suggestions: James Tyler Guitars Tyler Guitars Valley Arts Guitars pre-Gibson, pre-Samick Valley Arts Guitars They do insist on being pre-Gibson and pre-Samick... I was going to suggest G-Life guitars but the price tag is pretty steep. http://www.cracked.com/article_15231_7-reasons-21st-century-making-you-miserable.html http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-...better-person/ http://www.cracked.com/article_18817_5-reasons-future-will-be-ruled-by-b.s..html http://www.cracked.com/article_15663_10-things-christians-atheists-can-must-agree-on.html http://www.cracked.com/article_14990...keysphere.html http://www.cracked.com/article_19468...you-think.html

02-02-2011, 06:07 PM	#24
Elmoman ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 4 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Suhr Modern? Or classic. Great quality guitars. You're looking for humbuckers or singles?

02-02-2011, 10:28 PM	#25
kevyp12 ss.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Connecticut Posts: 98 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	youve dissmissed every good guitar out there... maybe what youre looking for.. is a new instrument. just quit haha \m/ Cauterization envelops your soul as all joy drains from your body \m/

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