10-32 guitars - innovative stuff - Page 3

alfaphlex · 01-19-2011, 03:18 PM

awesome first post and awesome guitars Chaz

Lucas_061287 · 01-19-2011, 07:41 PM

I like it. Alot. Very good ideas. I'd love to play one. Also, I kinda like that Explorer shaped one. Very unique.

asher · 01-19-2011, 07:52 PM

I personally actually really liked that Explorer shape and that paint job, too.

HighGain510 · 01-19-2011, 08:03 PM

Welcome to the forum Chaz!

Any chance we could hear how those babies sound?

I was pretty sad that we didn't get to hear it in that video from the first post, would love to see how your guitars sound plugged into something, sir!

splinter8451 · 01-19-2011, 08:07 PM

Like I said in the other thread that was up about these guitars, I really like the ideas and I really like the strat-ish body shape. Those cavities in the back are pretty genius. Especially the one for the trem bar. Id love to have that in my RG's

I misplace trem bars a lot.

I'm excited to see some 7's and 8's

Customisbetter · 01-19-2011, 08:27 PM

All of those ideas are ....ing awesome. Great job Chaz.

vanhendrix · 01-19-2011, 08:57 PM

I wanna get on board with this. I like the idea of somebody taking it upon themselves to put some of the better advances out there into one sick package.

My million dollar question: what's the story about lefties?

edsped · 01-19-2011, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by splinter8451

Like I said in the other thread that was up about these guitars, I really like the ideas and I really like the strat-ish body shape. Those cavities in the back are pretty genius. Especially the one for the trem bar. Id love to have that in my RG's

I misplace trem bars a lot.

I'm excited to see some 7's and 8's

Yeah, I could see a 7 string Shark possibly being next on my list of guitars to buy, depending a little on the price.

10-32 Guitars · 01-19-2011, 09:12 PM

Thanks again for the good words guys.

Lefty is no problem. Perhaps the easiest major change from a standard right handed setup actually.

I'm planning on getting some video from NAMM of a great player named Max Carlisle up tomorrow. In the mean time, there is sound from the Hank Shermann signature up on the HSV page Hank put together - Sound

That particular axe has a custom wound Nordstrand set called the "overlord" in it. The guy that made those for us no longer works there so not sure if theyre actually even available anymore!

Keep the questions comin! I love talkin' shop wil fellow axe slingers

10-32 Guitars · 01-19-2011, 09:17 PM

Hi guys...

I kinda jumped into the conversation (and the forum) over at this thread - 10-32 guitars - innovative stuff

perhaps we could get a mod to merge the threads?

Stealthtastic - I didnt completely annihilate a FR every 6 months by any means, but the knife edges wore down enough to eliminate any chance of a consistent return to zero. In my mind, a trem without a consistent return to zero is no longer a useful piece of hardware. Whats the saying? Great tone dont mean sh*t if youre not in tune

asher · 01-19-2011, 09:24 PM

I wonder what thoughts about making more use of the magnetic cavity plates on the back to cover some of the new routes would be? Like, if you bunched the wrench and trem arm cavities together as "utility routing" and gave them a snap off cover, too, just to keep the back more uniform. This might not be much of a priority, though, and I have no idea how well that'd work with a wireless unit.

10-32 Guitars · 01-19-2011, 09:47 PM

There are some potential issues there, but plenty of options to make it work.

Instruments with heavily contoured tops have limited available cavity depth. The only model I make that doesnt have a contoured top standard is the HSV. The Shark, BTG, and CGV all have coutoured backs as well, so theyre even more limited. Of course, the contours arent required by any means, so you could do this with any of the models, youd just have to give up at least a portion of the contours. Other alternatives would be using a 2" thick blank. I start with 1.75" for everything currently.

I plan to do builds for each model without contours just to create more options and give people more aesthetic variety to choose from. A "contourless" CG6 is an instrument I plan to do for myself at some point.

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Originally Posted by asher

I wonder what thoughts about making more use of the magnetic cavity plates on the back to cover some of the new routes would be? Like, if you bunched the wrench and trem arm cavities together as "utility routing" and gave them a snap off cover, too, just to keep the back more uniform. This might not be much of a priority, though, and I have no idea how well that'd work with a wireless unit.

Lucas_061287 · 01-19-2011, 11:25 PM

^Welcome aboard man. And SWEET guitars BTW. I'd love to get one some day.

Stealthdjentstic · 01-19-2011, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 10-32 Guitars

Hi guys...

I kinda jumped into the conversation (and the forum) over at this thread - 10-32 guitars - innovative stuff

perhaps we could get a mod to merge the threads?

Stealthtastic - I didnt completely annihilate a FR every 6 months by any means, but the knife edges wore down enough to eliminate any chance of a consistent return to zero. In my mind, a trem without a consistent return to zero is no longer a useful piece of hardware. Whats the saying? Great tone dont mean sh*t if youre not in tune

I see what your saying, but my I've played tons of year old or older guitars with OFR's that stay perfectly in tune. I feel like your statement is more than slightly exaggerative.

MaxOfMetal · 01-19-2011, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 10-32 Guitars

perhaps we could get a mod to merge the threads?

I didn't realize there were too.

Welcome to the forum man. I love Ibanez hardware so it's great to see a builder use it.

Miek · 01-19-2011, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxOfMetal

I didn't relise their were too.

Welcome to the forum man. I love Ibanez hardware so it's great to see a builder use it.

Ibanez made me a believer in the magic of double locking trems.

10-32 Guitars · 01-19-2011, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealthtastic

I see what your saying, but my I've played tons of year old or older guitars with OFR's that stay perfectly in tune. I feel like your statement is more than slightly exaggerative.

I suppose it depends how they're used. I tend to abuse the shit out of mine, and more than a couple of my first FRs were probably the licensed variety and made with inferior materials. I've broken aluminum drumsticks on a vdrums kit on 3 separate occasions to give you an idea of how violent I tend to be on stage

Stealthdjentstic · 01-20-2011, 12:02 AM

Fair enough then

highlordmugfug · 01-20-2011, 12:41 AM

I love the guitars, and I love the chops.

BigPhi84 · 01-20-2011, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 10-32 Guitars

I've broken aluminum drumsticks on a vdrums kit on 3 separate occasions to give you an idea of how violent I tend to be on stage

HOW THE HELL?!?!?!?!

Aluminum vs. Mesh and Rubber?

10-32 Guitars · 01-20-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BigPhi84

HOW THE HELL?!?!?!?!

Aluminum vs. Mesh and Rubber?

Mostly due to exceptionally poor drumming skills. They keep telling me to play with my wrists...its just not as much fun as the full range power hammer stroke

Let me ask you guys a question....Im considering testing this new Edge Zero II trem (replaceable knife edges!) to see how it compares to the ZR. I doubt anyone has their hands on this latest version yet, but does anyone own an axe with the original Edge Zero in it? Thoughts on it?

MaxOfMetal · 01-20-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 10-32 Guitars

Mostly due to exceptionally poor drumming skills. They keep telling me to play with my wrists...its just not as much fun as the full range power hammer stroke

Let me ask you guys a question....Im considering testing this new Edge Zero II trem (replaceable knife edges!) to see how it compares to the ZR. I doubt anyone has their hands on this latest version yet, but does anyone own an axe with the original Edge Zero in it? Thoughts on it?

The older Edge designs had removable knife edge plates as well, it's just REALLY hard to find the replacements anywhere. I've only seen Rich Harris get them in stock a few times over the course of the last ten years or so. I guess you could get custom ones made, but that'd be pretty pricey to do in a small batch with some high quality steel.

I like the Edge Zero, maybe not as much as the Lo-Pro Edge, but it's still a solid unit. The movement feels like half way between the Lo-Pro Edge and Edge Pro, so it's slightly on the stiffer side most of the time. Imagine a ZR but without that "bouncy" ball bearing feel and with that slight "angular" feel knife edge systems are known for.

10-32 Guitars · 01-20-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxOfMetal

The older Edge designs had removable knife edge plates as well, it's just REALLY hard to find the replacements anywhere. I've only seen Rich Harris get them in stock a few times over the course of the last ten years or so. I guess you could get custom ones made, but that'd be pretty pricey to do in a small batch with some high quality steel.

I like the Edge Zero, maybe not as much as the Lo-Pro Edge, but it's still a solid unit. The movement feels like half way between the Lo-Pro Edge and Edge Pro, so it's slightly on the stiffer side most of the time. Imagine a ZR but without that "bouncy" ball bearing feel and with that slight "angular" feel knife edge systems are known for.

I figured they were hard to come by...those new locking nuts that dont require the retaining bar are as well, but I did snag one on ebay for a ridiculous $25 yesterday. Rich might get 2 of em a year, & he wants like $60 bones if I remember right.

If I try out the Edge Zero I may try to reproduce the knife edges with my CNC. Wonder what kind of market there is for them...

Thx for the feedback on the trem. They seem to be easier to find and cheaper than the ZR, at least for now.

MaxOfMetal · 01-20-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 10-32 Guitars

I figured they were hard to come by...those new locking nuts that dont require the retaining bar are as well, but I did snag one on ebay for a ridiculous $25 yesterday. Rich might get 2 of em a year, & he wants like $60 bones if I remember right.

If I try out the Edge Zero I may try to reproduce the knife edges with my CNC. Wonder what kind of market there is for them...

Thx for the feedback on the trem. They seem to be easier to find and cheaper than the ZR, at least for now.

If you're willing to make inserts for the Ibanez/Gotoh trems, you may find a decent market for them over on Jemsite. I know a few guys who would love to breath some life into their old, beaten, abused trems, myself included.

cwhitey2 · 01-20-2011, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by adrock

this. i wasn't too impressed honestly...

i'm impressed

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01-19-2011, 07:41 PM	#52
Lucas_061287 ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 239 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I like it. Alot. Very good ideas. I'd love to play one. Also, I kinda like that Explorer shaped one. Very unique. "To lead and to fulfill the plebeians' desires, to corrupt and subvert. I need but to despise the very substance of truth and define what is right." -Sybreed, A.E.O.N

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splinter8451 SS.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 1,836 Thanked: 11 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Like I said in the other thread that was up about these guitars, I really like the ideas and I really like the strat-ish body shape. Those cavities in the back are pretty genius. Especially the one for the trem bar. Id love to have that in my RG's I misplace trem bars a lot. I'm excited to see some 7's and 8's "And I want a blowjob from Emma Watson, but sometimes we just gotta deal with what we're given!" -The Armada my youtube channel- http://www.youtube.com/user/vitreusMD?feature=mhum SikTh, Cyclamen After the Burial covers. More on the way!

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Lucas_061287 ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 239 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^Welcome aboard man. And SWEET guitars BTW. I'd love to get one some day. "To lead and to fulfill the plebeians' desires, to corrupt and subvert. I need but to despise the very substance of truth and define what is right." -Sybreed, A.E.O.N

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01-19-2011, 03:18 PM	#51
alfaphlex ss.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Philly Posts: 71 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	awesome first post and awesome guitars Chaz

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asher n00b with an axe Join Date: May 2010 Location: Charlottesville, VA/Oakland, CA Posts: 1,244 Thanked: 15 Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I personally actually really liked that Explorer shape and that paint job, too.

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HighGain510 Cold As Ice Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 12,476 Thanked: 226 Feedback Score: 31 reviews	Welcome to the forum Chaz! Any chance we could hear how those babies sound? I was pretty sad that we didn't get to hear it in that video from the first post, would love to see how your guitars sound plugged into something, sir!

01-19-2011, 08:27 PM	#56
Customisbetter WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Lansing, MI Posts: 8,451 Thanked: 75 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	All of those ideas are ....ing awesome. Great job Chaz.

01-19-2011, 08:57 PM	#57
vanhendrix SS.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 509 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I wanna get on board with this. I like the idea of somebody taking it upon themselves to put some of the better advances out there into one sick package. My million dollar question: what's the story about lefties?

01-19-2011, 09:12 PM	#59
10-32 Guitars ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Denver Posts: 20 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks again for the good words guys. Lefty is no problem. Perhaps the easiest major change from a standard right handed setup actually. I'm planning on getting some video from NAMM of a great player named Max Carlisle up tomorrow. In the mean time, there is sound from the Hank Shermann signature up on the HSV page Hank put together - Sound That particular axe has a custom wound Nordstrand set called the "overlord" in it. The guy that made those for us no longer works there so not sure if theyre actually even available anymore! Keep the questions comin! I love talkin' shop wil fellow axe slingers

01-19-2011, 09:17 PM	#60
10-32 Guitars ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Denver Posts: 20 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hi guys... I kinda jumped into the conversation (and the forum) over at this thread - 10-32 guitars - innovative stuff perhaps we could get a mod to merge the threads? Stealthtastic - I didnt completely annihilate a FR every 6 months by any means, but the knife edges wore down enough to eliminate any chance of a consistent return to zero. In my mind, a trem without a consistent return to zero is no longer a useful piece of hardware. Whats the saying? Great tone dont mean sh*t if youre not in tune

01-19-2011, 09:24 PM	#61
asher n00b with an axe Join Date: May 2010 Location: Charlottesville, VA/Oakland, CA Posts: 1,244 Thanked: 15 Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I wonder what thoughts about making more use of the magnetic cavity plates on the back to cover some of the new routes would be? Like, if you bunched the wrench and trem arm cavities together as "utility routing" and gave them a snap off cover, too, just to keep the back more uniform. This might not be much of a priority, though, and I have no idea how well that'd work with a wireless unit.

01-20-2011, 12:02 AM	#68
Stealthdjentstic Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canadia Posts: 19,984 Thanked: 338 Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Fair enough then

01-20-2011, 12:41 AM	#69
highlordmugfug themuthaphukkindeath Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: _ Posts: 4,014 Thanked: 47 $highlordmugfug is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $highlordmugfug is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $highlordmugfug is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $highlordmugfug is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $highlordmugfug is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $highlordmugfug is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $highlordmugfug is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 18 reviews	I love the guitars, and I love the chops.