STOLEN: Parker Fly Silverburst (LAMetalShop)

[Adversor]

Originally Posted by WillingWell

To all affected parties of Sanford's scamming:

Please contact me in regards to what actions we're going to take. If we all intend to get our gear back or some form of compensation, we need to be united on that front. PM me and I'll give you my contact info.

The trail Sanford left behind is quite large and thankfully, fully documented. He can try and cover his tracks, but fortunately there are those of us with more foresight than that.

Dude I am with you. Let's do what we can do right away, file an FBI internet crimes division complaint and send all his relatives an email letting them know what kind of shit he is. That would be a magnificent start. PM me.

[southrnshredder]

Wow, that is just horrible how someone could do that, but I am so impressed by the hard work you guys have put in to get this guy busted! You all are doing a great job, hope all that got scammed get compensation/gear back.

[goth_fiend]

to all parties involved in this, I hope you get your gear back, scumbags like this suck and I hope he gets what he deserves

[Adversor]

Sanford this will be your last chance to send the stuff back along with a monetary compensation for the shipping charges. Think about it, either you say "I am sorry, here's your gear and money back" or you go to jail causing your family greater damage. If you are intelligent enough you will do the first thing right away. You are busted and there's no way out. The dream is over.

[southrnshredder]

I'd like to see you guys get compensated for all of this, and that bastard behind bars. He doesn't deserve to be anywhere else.

[HighGain510]

Originally Posted by Adversor

Sanford this will be your last chance to send the stuff back along with a monetary compensation for the shipping charges. Think about it, either you say "I am sorry, here's your gear and money back" or you go to jail causing your family greater damage. If you are intelligent enough you will do the first thing right away. You are busted and there's no way out. The dream is over.

I am pretty sure you are wasting your time, he probably knows the jig is up and won't bother responding since there is already so much evidence proving it was him. Do yourself a favor and listen to what I told you to do two days ago, contact HIS local police department and file a report. Continuing to give a thief who clearly isn't responding ultimatums seems like a waste of time dude.

I would still contact his family and let them know as well since they would probably rather accept his shameful behavior and try to help you get your stuff back (assuming their relationship with him is good I guess, maybe he stole from them too! ) than see their son go to jail for grand theft!

[Mattmc74]

Stolen gear sucks! I hope you get your Parker back. Best of luck man!

[alecisonfire]

Originally Posted by HighGain510

I am pretty sure you are wasting your time, he probably knows the jig is up and won't bother responding since there is already so much evidence proving it was him. Do yourself a favor and listen to what I told you to do two days ago, contact HIS local police department and file a report.

^this.the longer it takes to contact the authorities the longer he'll have to try to move the gear. i would also do a search of major pawn shops in his area and shoot them an email or a phone call with a description of the parker. considering its rarity, and probably at least one employee on staff with instrument knowledge, they should be able to recognize it if it comes up

[Janiator]

Oh god this guy is a ....ing douchebag. Stealing gear is worse then church burnings IMO. Nobody loves their gear like musicians do. I hope you guys get your stuff back and this asshat goes to jail.

[Necrophagist777]

Originally Posted by HighGain510

I am pretty sure you are wasting your time, he probably knows the jig is up and won't bother responding since there is already so much evidence proving it was him. Do yourself a favor and listen to what I told you to do two days ago, contact HIS local police department and file a report. Continuing to give a thief who clearly isn't responding ultimatums seems like a waste of time dude.

I would still contact his family and let them know as well since they would probably rather accept his shameful behavior and try to help you get your stuff back (assuming their relationship with him is good I guess, maybe he stole from them too! ) than see their son go to jail for grand theft!

And let his fiancee know of his pilfering ways as well. I vote we attempt to ruin his future marriage in response to his douchebaggery.

[_fred_]

Originally Posted by Janiator

Oh god this guy is a ....ing douchebag. Stealing gear is worse then church burnings IMO. Nobody loves their gear like musicians do. I hope you guys get your stuff back and this asshat goes to jail.

Exactly.. and one more thing. I find that it strikes me much deeper when I get scammed by a fellow musician. I mean, the world is a cruel place as it is. Shouldn't we musicians be like some sort of a brotherhood or something? I mean, I can understand people robbing each other's money, property, cars and stuff.. Hey, it's always been like that, and always will. But what's up with scamming your own for guitars, amps and other gear? That's ....ing bullshit! (I know it sounds weird, but i just feel it is so really really low!)

You know, in some arabic countries (don't get all terrorist with me now) they still chop off thieves' hands! I'd vote for a law like that to be introduced in our Western Civilization any ....ing day!

[alecisonfire]

Originally Posted by _fred_

Exactly.. and one more thing. I find that it strikes me much deeper when I get scammed by a fellow musician. I mean, the world is a cruel place as it is. Shouldn't we musicians be like some sort of a brotherhood or something?

theres always gonna be shitheads, but just through the amount of sympathy and assistance found in this thread, i think the brotherhood is still quite strong

[silentrage]

Originally Posted by _fred_

Exactly.. and one more thing. I find that it strikes me much deeper when I get scammed by a fellow musician. I mean, the world is a cruel place as it is. Shouldn't we musicians be like some sort of a brotherhood or something? I mean, I can understand people robbing each other's money, property, cars and stuff.. Hey, it's always been like that, and always will. But what's up with scamming your own for guitars, amps and other gear? That's ....ing bullshit! (I know it sounds weird, but i just feel it is so really really low!)

You know, in some arabic countries (don't get all terrorist with me now) they still chop off thieves' hands! I'd vote for a law like that to be introduced in our Western Civilization any ....ing day!

Lol, that's how I felt too, but then again the first time I saw sworth's avatar I thought he looked like a potential douchebag.

[I_infect]

Originally Posted by Necrophagist777

And let his fiancee know of his pilfering ways as well. I vote we attempt to ruin his future marriage in response to his douchebaggery.

Just an observation, but I think we give this guy too much credit as a human being, and I really think his GF or whoever she is knows all about it. She is probably laughing at these posts right along with him. Sorry but I think it's true. From the little I know of him/contact with him in this forum I got the impression he was little more than a small time hustler/sociopath(no conscience). I'm sure he had this hustle floating around in his brain for ages now waiting for the right time. We don't want to believe we got hustled but we did. I say 'we' because even though alot of us didn't lose any gear, we were all lied to, and he gained alot of people's trust here.

I remember he got that Ibanez baritone and was bragging about scoring it for $50 at a pawn shop. He asked what we thought it was worth, and we told him around $200-$300. He chopped it up and made that steam punk contraption out of it, and put it on Ebay for $1000.

Honestly guys, I think the best way is contacting as many authorities as you can, and in numbers. If one person files a complaint of stolen gear, it could easily be disregarded. If 5-10 people file complaints, that's a lot harder to sweep under the rug of police dept laziness. Also the hardest part is proving it was stolen in the first place, he could say it was a gift, or forge receipts. Have physical evidence(i.e. paper trail) ready to present. You basically have to do the work for them, have his address, copy of emails, shipping/tracking information, call UPS/Fedex etc get a copy of whoever signed for it upon delivery. If he's using 2 different accounts/aliases it could turn out to be theft by deception etc, unlawful use of a computer/communication device, criminal conspiracy etc.
And honestly an easy way to nail him is see if his fiance was involved, if she had signed for a package etc, accepted a phone call etc, then she would be part of the conspiracy and could be coerced to snitch him out.

If we want to nail this guy, we gotta be smart about it and patient... get a strategy and a fine tooth comb.

[park0496]

Originally Posted by mikernaut

grrrr this really sux hearing this.

Here are some pics I have on my Photobucket, I'm sure I have more on my home computer to dig up to help Nick. ( I'm not at home currently)






UPS initially damaged it when I sent it out to Ryan. This wasnt a cheap guitar (about $5k when it 1st came out) and there was only about 8 or 9 made I was told by a Parker rep. They never finished the run of 12.

I actually bought this from you Mike back in Jan 09. The pickups weren't EMG's, they were Seymour Duncan. It only had that one ding by the bridge when I had it, and I touched it up with silver paint.

[cvinos]

Is..... this.... a joke..... or a most amazing twist after all that?

Or did you, park0496, sell it, so it could somehow make its way back to mikernaut within 2009?

And... park0496, are you telling the truth?? Maybe you confuse the guitars?

Or did mikernaut simply confuse the pics?

Edit: No offense intended with this post.

[park0496]

Originally Posted by cvinos

Is..... this.... a joke..... or a most amazing twist after all that?

Or did you sell it so it could make its way back to mikernaut within 2009?

Or did mikernaut simply confuse the pics?

And who are you, park0496??

I bought it from Mike end of Jan 09. Here's the thread

http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/gui...-mojo-ltd.html

UPS damaged it, we filed the claim, and UPS sent the guitar back to Mike since he paid for the shipping/insurance. I assume those pics are from when he got it back to inspect it. He sent the guitar back to me when UPS approved the claim. I touched up the ding at that time.

[7 Strings of Hate]

^so whats your point excatly?

[park0496]

My point is...Mike did not sell the guitar to Ryan. And if this is the same guitar that's pictured then the ding might still be touched up. Probably not that helpful, but just want to have the right facts.

[cvinos]

And if this is the same guitar that's pictured then the ding might still be touched up.

So you do not have the guitar anymore. To whom did you sell it, and when (if I may ask)?

[Ketzer]

Originally Posted by cvinos

So you do not have the guitar anymore. To whom did you sell it, and when (if I may ask)?

He's a previous owner. That much I know from doing my research. Willingwell and I were the last 2 honest forum members who played this guitar. Mike, Ryan, and Park were the 3 previous owners.

[cvinos]

Okay, cool.

Wow to me it seems odd how a guitar can travel that much, but yeh, I am just not used to that market. I shut up now.

[park0496]

Originally Posted by cvinos

Okay, cool.

Wow to me it seems odd how a guitar can travel that much, but yeh, I am just not used to that market. I shut up now.

I sold it on ebay March/April timeframe. I'll have to research who bought it..But I do remember he lived in Colorado.

Who put EMG's in it???

[AK DRAGON]

I hope you guys get your gear back. It sucks having something you work hard to attain, to have some miscreant (putting it lightly) steal it from you.
As much as you all want to stangle his scrawny little neck, know that the 8x12 room they put him in will be his home soon.

[Janiator]

Originally Posted by _fred_

I find that it strikes me much deeper when I get scammed by a fellow musician. I mean, the world is a cruel place as it is. Shouldn't we musicians be like some sort of a brotherhood or something?

You know, in some arabic countries they still chop off thieves' hands! I'd vote for a law like that to be introduced in our Western Civilization any ....ing day!

Well, that punishment would be extra hard on us guitarists, now wouldn't it?
I totaly agree with your first point. My rig is worth a lot to me not because of the acctual value, but the personal connection I have with my instrument. I know it sounds trippy and all, but that's the way I see it