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Unread 01-13-2009, 08:02 AM   #1
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2009 Formula 1 Season Thread

With the launch of the new Ferarri F60, whats everyones hopes for the 2009 season:





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Hopefully closer racing with the new aero package, and less involvement with the race stewards after races.

Although with that new "cow catcher" front wing. I'm expecting a lot of front wing-to-rear tire punctures.

Should be an interesting season in that, all top contending teams haven't had any driver lineup changes. It's been a while since that's happened (thanks mostly in part to Alonso). Although I hope something comes out of Honda selling their team. Otherwise it's going to be an awfully empty looking grid with only 18 cars lining up.
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I'd like to see Vettel surprising everyone again, I'd like to see BMW closer to the front, and I want to see a tightly knit race for the title.

I wanna see Renault competitive from the start, I miss Alonso fighting for the season.

I just want to see some damn good racing basically
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Also. I'm kind of hoping that the British GP is going to be one for the record books. I'm going to miss Silverstone.

But the new layout at Donington does look interesting. I'm glad they aren't going to mess with the whole "Redgate-Craner-Old Hairpin-Starkeys-McLeans" sequence. Because that's just a classic collection of corners.

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I personally can't wait for Donington. Never been a fan of Silverstone, don't know why but it has never done anything for me, whereas Donington already holds so many memories for me.
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Well... surprisingly elegant considering. Perhaps team red just did a better job than some of the others. Not sure what the deal is with the laughably long nose (regs?), and the wide front wing looks as awesome as the tiny rear wing looks gay, but it all looks fairly slick, particularly in plan view. In any case, it will be nice to see the onslaught upon the kingdom of Hamilton begin... as I will continue to watch F1 until the spec. engines are implemented. Then, I turn it off.
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Ron Dennis to bow out as McLaren team principal

Not the biggest Dennis fan here. But he's going to be missed. Although I have been reading that a lot of teams haven't been so friendly to him after the Newey-gate incident.
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Damnit, why can't the season start now, I'm excited to see what these cars can do now
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My perennial choice of the spoiler team in the title fight.





A very understated unveiling of the new BMW Sauber F109. They just stood around for a couple photo ops for the press, and got back to their testing @ Valencia.

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Ahh, there's some tennis thing happening in Melbourne right now.

But if you're jonesing for a racing fix. There IS the Rolex 24 this weekend @ Daytona. It's definitely not the same race it used to be (the REAL start of the racing season starts on March 21 IMHO) . But it's better than nothing.
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I can't wait for the new season to start. Hopefully Massa can keep the confidence he had from last year and win the world championship. The new cars look so different, but I'm getting used to them already. They look pretty damn gorgeous from the side.
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I can't wait for the new season to start. Hopefully Massa can keep the confidence he had from last year and win the world championship. The new cars look so different, but I'm getting used to them already. They look pretty damn gorgeous from the side.

I wouldn't bet my money on Massa. not beacuse he doesnt have what it takes but due to his instability. He is capable of winning all races or losing all races.

If he was more carefull he would have won the championship and not have to rely on Glock's tires.
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If he was more carefull he would have won the championship and not have to rely on Glock's tires.
That's not really a fair assessment. His team also let him down near the final rounds of the season. That whole pit-stop debacle in Singapore alone cost him enough of points to lose the championship. Let's not also forget that he had absolutely zero support from Räikkönen, who seemed to be in his own world during the final races.

Also. I don't think anyone is going to dispute that, compared to the McLaren, Ferrari's car was awful in the wet. Them and Bridgestone just never seemed to be on the same page when it came to wet weather setups.


Heidfeld made some interesting comments about the title outlook. I'll always pick this team as my spoiler for the title fight. But I think Nick should be worrying about winning races before anything else.

Heidfeld targeting title, not just a maiden win
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That's not really a fair assessment. His team also let him down near the final rounds of the season. That whole pit-stop debacle in Singapore alone cost him enough of points to lose the championship. Let's not also forget that he had absolutely zero support from Räikkönen, who seemed to be in his own world during the final races.
I agree dude. Don't get me wrong. Masa didnt receive all the support he could get -my father definetely got pissed off about this- but don't forget that he made mistakes and had bad races where he seemed helpless. Also Hamilton didn't get enough support from Mc Laren, just count his bad pit stops and you will see that his team did let him down on many occasions and also on some penalties that were given to him.
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That's not really a fair assessment. His team also let him down near the final rounds of the season. That whole pit-stop debacle in Singapore alone cost him enough of points to lose the championship. Let's not also forget that he had absolutely zero support from Räikkönen, who seemed to be in his own world during the final races.

Also. I don't think anyone is going to dispute that, compared to the McLaren, Ferrari's car was awful in the wet. Them and Bridgestone just never seemed to be on the same page when it came to wet weather setups.
What really ....ed Ferrari was the duff batch of con rods... total of 3 failures, one engine on a dyno and both Felipe and Kimi's cars. Apparently the fabricator changed procedures without working through the full implications with Ferrari...
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More pics & High res Here: Index of /f1/photos-hires/2009/team-redbull & FORMULE109 (More pics of other cars in this one)
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So this Tuesday (Feb 24th), it's going to be official. Peter Windsor and Ken Anderson are entering a US-based F1 team starting with the 2010 season.

I suppose it's not a bad idea to consider entering the series now. Especially since the aero rules are now fixed spec. So R&D for an aero package allegedly isn't going to be as expensive compared to a few years ago. And since the team is going to be located in the southeast region of the US. They've got quite a few windtunnels at their disposal to do their R&D on.

Should be an interesting press conference.

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What really ....ed Ferrari was the duff batch of con rods... total of 3 failures, one engine on a dyno and both Felipe and Kimi's cars. Apparently the fabricator changed procedures without working through the full implications with Ferrari...

And lest we forget the "lollipop" man fiasco. His replacement with that stupid three lights box was a failure. Too much technology sometimes ....s things up.
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A little more than 2 weeks before the first practice session @ Melbourne.

The first "real" testing session took place today. The reason why I say "real" is because it's on a circuit that they'll actually be racing on later -and- all the teams have their current season spec cars up and running. Well for the most part anyway.

Circuit de Catalunya - Spain 9 March 2009

Pos. Driver Team Tires Time Laps
1 N. Heidfeld BMW Bridgestone 01:20.339 92
2 K. Räikkönen Ferrari Bridgestone 01:20.908 80
3 J. Trulli Toyota Bridgestone 01:20.937 118
4 J. Button Brawn GP Bridgestone 01:21.140 82
5 N. Piquet jr. Renault Bridgestone 01:21.662 125
6 S. Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso Bridgestone 01:22.158 96
7 M. Webber Red Bull Bridgestone 01:22.246 115
8 A. Sutil Force India F1 Bridgestone 01:22.452 127
9 K. Nakajima Williams Bridgestone 01:22.813 111
10 H. Kovalainen McLaren Bridgestone 01:22.948 87

As a comparison to last year's cars. The fastest race lap of the '08 Spanish GP was 1:21.670. And fastest time of all 3 qualifying sessions was 1:20.701
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The .... is up with McLaren.....
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Day 2 of 4. Bad day for the STR team who were plagued with a lot of mechanical issues.

Meanwhile the newly renamed Brawn GP team was only .6 behind the leading Ferrari.



Circuit de Catalunya - Spain 10 March 2009

Pos. Driver Team Tyres Time Laps
1 K. Räikkönen Ferrari Bridgestone 01:20.314 55
2 K. Nakajima Williams Bridgestone 01:20.907 66
3 R. Barrichello Brawn GP Bridgestone 01:20.966 111
4 J. Trulli Toyota Bridgestone 01:21.182 121
5 M. Webber Red Bull Bridgestone 01:21.347 66
6 N. Heidfeld BMW Bridgestone 01:21.615 127
7 A. Sutil Force India F1 Bridgestone 01:21.834 82
8 F. Alonso Renault Bridgestone 01:21.937 111
9 H. Kovalainen McLaren Bridgestone 01:21.991 88
10 S. Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso Bridgestone 01:23.039 14
11 S. Buemi Scuderia Toro Rosso Bridgestone 00:00.000 6
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Day 3 of 4.

So much for slowing down with the new regs. Button's top time was over a second quicker than the fastest lap of the '08 Spanish GP weekend. Not bad for a team that was on the selling block a couple of months ago.

Hamilton's first appearance at the testing session, was highlighted with him going off @ turn 2 and getting beached in the gravel trap.


Circuit de Catalunya - Spain 11 March 2009

Pos. Driver Team Tyres Time Laps
1 J. Button Brawn GP Bridgestone 01:19.127 124
2 F. Massa Ferrari Bridgestone 01:20.168 109
3 R. Kubica BMW Bridgestone 01:20.217 109
4 T. Glock Toyota Bridgestone 01:20.410 99
5 F. Alonso Renault Bridgestone 01:20.863 107
6 S. Vettel Red Bull Bridgestone 01:21.165 102
7 N. Rosberg Williams Bridgestone 01:21.324 89
8 G. Fisichella Force India F1 Bridgestone 01:21.545 97
9 S. Buemi Scuderia Toro Rosso Bridgestone 01:21.569 140
10 L. Hamilton McLaren Bridgestone 01:21.657 82
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Final day of testing @ Catalunya

Brawn GP is the fastest again. Nearly a second quicker than the rest of the field.

Whether or not the other teams are sandbagging. Based on the average times. These cars are all going to be seriously quick by the time the 2nd half of the season comes around. Monza is going to be really interesting with all this lowered downforce and drag.


Circuit de Catalunya - Spain 12 March 2009

Pos. Driver Team Tyres Time Laps
1 R. Barrichello Brawn GP Bridgestone 01:18.926 110
2 N. Rosberg Williams Bridgestone 01:19.774 120
3 T. Glock Toyota Bridgestone 01:20.091 128
4 S. Vettel Red Bull Bridgestone 01:20.576 83
5 F. Alonso Renault Bridgestone 01:20.664 64
6 F. Massa Ferrari Bridgestone 01:20.677 92
7 R. Kubica BMW Bridgestone 01:20.740 134
8 L. Hamilton McLaren Bridgestone 01:20.869 70
9 S. Buemi Scuderia Toro Rosso Bridgestone 01:21.013 62
10 G. Fisichella Force India F1 Bridgestone 01:21.045 141
11 S. Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso Bridgestone 01:21.629 27
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I'm slightly encouraged to see McLaren not far behind Ferarri, and also, I am amazed and very pleased to see how well the Brawn GP team are doing. They deserve it, no matter whether it lasts for a while, or if they are now a genuine force to be reckoned with, whatever happens, its great to see them there and surprising everyone
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seems like the Brawn team will have a furious start, i'm glad to see that and am already excited for the new season!
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