[Guitarwizard]

That's sucks man...

..I heard today that the uefa is also having full control over the games in television, and all scenes with hools etc. get just cut out and censored... even the private vids on youtube get deleted...
What the fuck is this? 1930's??

[Gilbucci]

Man..Italy played terrible today. It was almost embarrassing to watch. That in combination with the absolutely AWFUL officials. That first goal should NOT have counted, Van Nistelrooy was offside by like 8 feet. I'll admit that the Netherlands played better than us today, but the refs were completely clueless at the same time. I am very disappointed.

[petereanima]

Originally Posted by Guitarwizard

That's sucks man...

..I heard today that the uefa is also having full control over the games in television, and all scenes with hools etc. get just cut out and censored... even the private vids on youtube get deleted...
What the fuck is this? 1930's??

yeah, there is a little "back in time" feel haha...

[Guitarwizard]

Originally Posted by Gilbucci

That first goal should NOT have counted, Van Nistelrooy was offside by like 8 feet.

Wrong!

The Offside didn't count because the goalie was behind the borderline at the time when hollands guy shot.
I didn't know about this rule neither - but it's there.

[Ville]

Panucci was the last defender behind the borderline and Buffon was the second to last defender at the time. I wouldn't call it offside but then again I'm a big fan of the Netherlands...

[DelfinoPie]

Come on Romania!

I find it funny that the first time they qualify in something like 14 years they're going to get absolutely dicked because of the group they're in

I'm supporting Germany because they have some of the best exports; beer, multiple varieties of sausage, Claudia Schiffer and Black Forest Gateau.



Although Greece is my second team because I used to live in the Greek side of Cyprus.

[Gilbucci]

Originally Posted by Guitarwizard

Wrong!

The Offside didn't count because the goalie was behind the borderline at the time when hollands guy shot.
I didn't know about this rule neither - but it's there.

Oh, I wasn't aware of that...neither were all the angry italians in the bar yesterday Thanks for telling me bro

[petereanima]

Originally Posted by DelfinoPie

Germany ...some of the best exports; beer,

ridiculous EURO08 side-note: in the fan-zones, austrias barkeepers are not allowed to sell austrian beer, only shitty carlsberg.


and what do carlsberg and sex on a boat do have in common?

both is fucking close to water.

[Dormant]

Originally Posted by Guitarwizard

Wrong!

The Offside didn't count because the goalie was behind the borderline at the time when hollands guy shot.
I didn't know about this rule neither - but it's there.

Incorrect.

Originally Posted by Ville

Panucci was the last defender behind the borderline and Buffon was the second to last defender at the time. I wouldn't call it offside but then again I'm a big fan of the Netherlands...

Incorrect. The Goalkeeper can never be deemed to be 'the second to last defender'.

The correct reason the goal was given:

Originally Posted by Rulebook

Law 11.11 in the rulebook - under advice to referees. "A defender who leaves the field during the course of play and does not immediately return must still be considered in determining where the second to last defender is for the purpose of judging which attackers are in an offside position" . Such a defender is considered to be on the touch line or goal line closest to his or her off-field position. A defender who leaves the field with the referee's permission (and who thus requires the referee's permission to return) is not included in determining offside position.

This law has been around for ages (I remember seeing it in the rules over 15 years ago) but there just hasn't been a situation like the one in the game the other night that could lead to so much controversy.

I think it's a good rule as it stops the following scenario: Attacking team has a corner - Defending team all stand on the byline and as soon as the kick is taken all jump off the field of play making every attacking player stood in the opponents half offside.

No defending player can leave the field of play or be deemed inactive without the permission of the referee. It basically is there to stop cheating. In the situation the other night it seemed perfectly justifiable as Panucci only went down injured as he got a smack in the head from his own goalkeeper. It's down to poor communication on the part of the Italians. If Panucci fell down and lay prostrate in the field of play just by the goal-line he would have played every Dutch attacker onside. It was also quite telling that he lay on the floor like he had been shot but got up very quickly when the goal was awarded, to complain. It's all a moot point really because Italy were completely outplayed and deserved nothing from the game anyway.

Originally Posted by DelfinoPie

Come on Romania!

I find it funny that the first time they qualify in something like 14 years they're going to get absolutely dicked because of the group they're in

This is not the first time Romania have qualified for 14 years. Romania reached the 2nd Round of the World Cup in 1990 getting knocked out by the Republic of Ireland, Missed out on Euro 92, reached the World Cup in 1994 getting knocked out at the Quarter Final stage to Sweden, reached Euro 96 to get knocked out at the group stages, reached the World Cup in 98 (beating England 2-1 in the group stages) and getting knocked out by Croatia in the 2nd round, and reached Euro 2000 getting knocked out by Italy, having beaten England (again).

This is the Romanian's first tournament in 8 years but that's only 3 they have missed. You really aren't giving them enough credit. They are ranked 12th best team in the World in the FIFA rankings, and in the Euro qualifying they beat Holland and came top of their group.

Yes, they are underdogs in the group (because they tend to do better when teams have to play them in the hostile environment in Romania) but they are no pushovers. They also as you may have seen if you watched the game against France will see that they are boring ugly battlers who grind out results. I don't want them to qualify because they are bad for football. I feel the same way about Greece who were appalling last night and didn't behave like the defending champions showing no ambition to do anything.

Sorry I didn't mean to come across like a big know it all but I think it's best if people know the truth in these situations!

[playstopause]

Originally Posted by DelfinoPie

I'm supporting Germany because they have some of the best exports; beer, multiple varieties of sausage, Claudia Schiffer and Black Forest Gateau.

Wow, Spain was brutal against Russia yesterday.
Looking forward for PORTUGAL vs CZECH today.