[7 Strings of Hate]

crocop was fighting that gaberial gonzaga dude for a shot at coutures heavy weight belt(did you guys see him destroy silvia?? killer fight), i think its cuz they know whoever is in the top spot is gonna get destroyed by fedor, and its too soon to have randy get stomped by fedor, although, this gonzaga guy looks down right mean, i mean, he actually knocked out crocop with a high kick, who would have thought

[BigM555]

Originally Posted by 7 Strings of Hate

he actually knocked out crocop with a high kick, who would have thought

Mirko certainly did get his bell rang, but I wouldn't agree about Ganzaga looking mean. I thought he looked pretty pudgy. I fully expected Mirko to be delivering his patented high kick to the melon.

If you study the re-run of Crocop taking the kick you can see that he was expecting a low kick and was attempting to block for it. He just never expected the high kick and he paid the ultimate price. It only takes one mistake.

YouTube - gonzaga

Check out the replay at 1:07 you can see him dropping his hands not expecting the high kick. Props to Gonzagas but I'm doubting there would be a repeat. Then again, it sounds like Cro Cops heart isn't quite in it anymore.

[The Dark Wolf]

Cro Cop has never been an emotional fighter. He's hard to gauge.


Moved this to the sports forum, BTW.

[7 Strings of Hate]

sorry, didnt even realize we had a sport forum, well, yea, crocop judged wrong, thats why all fighters lose fights, the judge something wrong, but just cuz gonzaga is pudgy doesnt mean he isnt a bad ass fighter, fedor is kinda pudgy , but no one questions him, and imo, and i think ya gotta agree, if you can beat crocop, your one mean mofo

[BigM555]

Originally Posted by 7 Strings of Hate

......if you can beat crocop, your one mean mofo

+10,000

Yeah, in all reality most of us wouldn't stand a chance in the ring/octagon.

Kinda like Joe's vs Pro's when the schmucks were trash talking Roy Jones Jr. Hmm, how stupid do you have to be to think you could hold your own with Roy?

Anyway!!! So what's every body thinking about the NEW champ?

[Oogadee Boogadee]

i missed the fights b/c i'm at a family reunion... but i found them online and watched the Jardine/Alexander fight (BRUTAL Uppercuts!), and the Chuck fight.

I'm glad he lost - his counterpunching defense also seems to be his offense. he's such a responsive type of fighter.... kinda boring in the initiative dept.

I heard the staredown was intense.

Also, Fedor will lose.

A fighter is only their best once, and even with good sustainabilty, time is always the enemy. you can sustain everything, but you'll always age and time always allows others to study you and catch up.... younger hungrier fighters. Fedor is too inactive as well, and his experience in the cage is none or little at best. He's going to find out the hard way, like Mirko. Maybe not in his first cross-over fight.... but sooner than we all want or expect. I'm not saying it's going to come from a UFC guy..... but just generally, we've long seen the best of him and now we're all just wondering 'when?' and 'who?'.

[BigM555]

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I can't say I share the enthusiasm of others when it comes to Fedor.

You're dead on about time being your enemy. I think a lot of MMA fans are too fair weather. I could give a crap that Mirko lost to Gonzaga. He's still one of my favorite fighters, and likely always will be. He was so dominant, calm, cool and collected for so many fights. No one is unbeatable. Likewise, I've got mad respect for Randy Couture. Any man his age that can simply get into a ring with these animals, let alone WIN, yet still have the poise and good manners that he displays on camera is all right in my books. I like champions that are humble and give respect to others. None of this Prince Naseem BS!

Originally Posted by Oogadee Boogadee

i missed the fights b/c i'm at a family reunion... but i found them online and watched the Jardine/Alexander fight (BRUTAL Uppercuts!),

+ 1 million. Those had to have been the nastiest upper cuts I've ever seen. It literally looked like it lifted him off his feet. It almost hurt to watch.

[7 Strings of Hate]

yea, i'm like you bigm, everyone loses, i still love chuck, but he did look kinda like a punk after the beatings hes given and received , and then to get knocked out by a glancing blow that was the weak punch you throw so you can make it to the inside and throw the real punch, rampage is in his head apperently, and it sucks jardine lost, i really like him too,

but!, i dont forsee fedor losing, hes got a pretty tough body, but with fedor, he is the strongest mental fighter of them all, thats why he wins, his body doesnt look as cut or as athletic as the others, he knows fighting is 90% of fighting, and thats what makes him dangerous

[Regor]

I just watched the fight...

PRIDE BABY!!! YEAH!!!!!! Rampage is the shit!!

As for a 'glancing blow'... a glancing blow doesn't BUCKLE your legs! He didn't trip, he got caught, then took him down to the ground and you can easily see that he ended up knocking him out on the ground. He went limp. Plain and simple.


Anderson Silva did it in 2 fights. Rampage now did it in 2 fights.


And I highly doubt you'll see Fedor in a cage. He's the Pride champ. Why would he come to fight nobodys in the UFC? If anything, people have to challenge him. And to challenge him, they gotta fight him in a Pride ring. Unless 'he' challenges Couture, which I doubt.

And who said anything about Fedor not fighting in a while? He recently fought in that BodogFIGHT PPV, and he trains CONSTANTLY!! He ain't fat, and he ain't out of shape either.

[7 Strings of Hate]

it was a sissy blow chuck got caught with, it WAS weak, i wasnt downing rampage, i was downing chuck for gettin knocked out by the guys weaker punch that was thrown just so he could get close,

and 2nd, i dont know if you realize, but the ufc owns pride, why would the parent company make fighters go over to the smaller place to fight, they wouldnt, hes gonna have to do what dana white tells him ,fedors gonna make a cage apperance pretty soon i'm willing to bet, and i dont think randy coture is a nobody , currently thats who fedor would be fighting