[Azyiu]

Originally Posted by GH0STrider

Yi will not win roty.

Yeah, I KNEW that! I was just messing with you, because I KNEW you would write an essay to tell us why he won't win it... yeah, I think I wasted your time on purpose, I WON!!! By the way, I kind of wonder what Jeff the Spurs fan, and your best friend Nick are up to. We need them over here to talk B-ball, man.

Originally Posted by ibzrg1570

7-3 Max Zhang Signs with Cal Basketball :: Freshman center will be tallest player in school history

Yea, I was a little confused as to how he managed to get to the States, but I'm not complaining!

Yo, Derek, go talk to the guy, man. He is fairly new to the States, and he needs someone like you to speak Mandrian with and to hook him up with some bitches!

[ibzrg1570]

Haha, don't worry, Berkeley is like 50% Asian, I'm sure he can find someone to talk to. I actually have only seen him around once (and he's freaking TALL!!!) but I bought season tickets so if he plays this year I'll get to see him at least 15 times.

[GH0STrider]

Originally Posted by Azyiu

I kind of wonder what Jeff the Spurs fan, and your best friend Nick are up to. We need them over here to talk B-ball, man.

Jeff is welcome anytime. But if Nick comes here we can't include the celitcs in our talks cause he is blind to the fact that they are not perfect. It's pretty annoying.

[Azyiu]

Originally Posted by GH0STrider

Jeff is welcome anytime. But if Nick comes here we can't include the celitcs in our talks cause he is blind to the fact that they are not perfect. It's pretty annoying.

Come on, dude, he is just rooting for his team...

Oh oh, it is almost extension time for your Bulls, dude. What are you going to do with Deng and Gordan? Both deserve the big bucks, but if you were Paxson, what are you going to do? I don't know, I might keep Deng but deal Gordan somewhere else.

[ibzrg1570]

Originally Posted by Azyiu

Oh oh, it is almost extension time for your Bulls, dude. What are you going to do with Deng and Gordan? Both deserve the big bucks, but if you were Paxson, what are you going to do? I don't know, I might keep Deng but deal Gordan somewhere else.

As much as I love Gordan (I'm a Huskies fan ) he hasn't really developed as much as expected of a 3rd overall pick. Maybe they could deal him over to the Bobcats! Emeka and Gordan reunited... that would be awesome.

[Azyiu]

Originally Posted by ibzrg1570

As much as I love Gordan (I'm a Huskies fan ) he hasn't really developed as much as expected of a 3rd overall pick. Maybe they could deal him over to the Bobcats! Emeka and Gordan reunited... that would be awesome.

Not that I don't like Gordan, I like that kid, and I don't take him for granted either. I am only saying what I said based on Bulls' salary situation and their long term future. I mean, he is a good player and all, but I don't know if he is really the real building block for the Bulls in a long run. The Bulls are already commiting to over $60M in payroll, if I were Paxson I would think long and hard before keeping Gordan long term. For that, I really would like to read about what Mr. Blackcock's insight.

[GH0STrider]

Originally Posted by ibzrg1570

As much as I love Gordan (I'm a Huskies fan ) he hasn't really developed as much as expected of a 3rd overall pick. Maybe they could deal him over to the Bobcats! Emeka and Gordan reunited... that would be awesome.

Not to pull a zimbloth here, but are you nuts? My bulls love aside, ben hasn't developed a 3rd overall pic??? He averaged 21 ppg last season. He was an all-star snub and definatly should have been there. Joe johnson??? great he scroed 26 ppg on a team that could barely win 30 games. Ben did it a team that won 49. Not to mention he is one of the most clutch players in the game today. His shooting is deadly, when he is on there is no stopping him. He was the only player in the nba last season to average over 20 ppg while playing less than 35 minutes. Hasn't developed? What on earth do you consider developed?

I would keep ben if I was pax. He has improved every year and his defense is finally catching up to the rest of the team. He is not there yet, but will be. His size is a concern for all nba gms so pax could probably get gordon cheaper than the average 20ppg shooting guard. (he is listed at 6'3" but is more like 6 foot or 6'1". I am a legit 6'3" and I've met been and I was taller than him.) I think he could sell gordon on the fact that the only teams out there that can offer max deals suck pretty hard. He can take great money and lose or he can take good money and win. I think ben will make the right choice. You guys say ben is not important for the bulls future. Man do I disagree with that. His is inconsistent I will give you all that. But he has become more and more consistent. You don't average 21 ppg from being inconsistent. No player has been as clutch as ben has for chicago. Remember his first season? He won 15 games for the bulls himself. You guys know his nickname here in chicago, right? "Mr. Fourth Quarter". If we lost ben our offense would take a big hit. Sure there are guys who could step in and pick up the scoring slack. But let me say this- There is a difference between a scorer and a clutch scorer. Ben has hit big shots when the bulls needed them. Players like that are hard to find. On another note- Deng is a keeper, and if pax even considers dealing him I will boycot every bulls game until pax is out of office. Loul is going to be an allstar this year no dought. It's about time a chicago guy shows his face in an allstar game.

[Azyiu]

^ well written, Mr. Blackcock! And thanks for your insight too. I know Ben is NOT a bad player, but I cannot tell just how good he is, given I don't get to watch the Bulls all that much. But yet, Deng is definitely a keeper and it sounds like the Bulls should also pay to keep Ben as well. What about Kirk? Is he going to be another hard nose, no non-sense guy like Nash down the road? I always liked him even when he was still at Kansas.

Off topic, dude, I didn't know you are that tall, that's cool. I am just a tiny little 5'10" Chinese guy, you know?

[ibzrg1570]

Originally Posted by GH0STrider

Not to pull a zimbloth here, but are you nuts? My bulls love aside, ben hasn't developed a 3rd overall pic??? He averaged 21 ppg last season. He was an all-star snub and definatly should have been there. Joe johnson??? great he scroed 26 ppg on a team that could barely win 30 games. Ben did it a team that won 49. Not to mention he is one of the most clutch players in the game today. His shooting is deadly, when he is on there is no stopping him. He was the only player in the nba last season to average over 20 ppg while playing less than 35 minutes. Hasn't developed? What on earth do you consider developed?

I would keep ben if I was pax. He has improved every year and his defense is finally catching up to the rest of the team. He is not there yet, but will be. His size is a concern for all nba gms so pax could probably get gordon cheaper than the average 20ppg shooting guard. (he is listed at 6'3" but is more like 6 foot or 6'1". I am a legit 6'3" and I've met been and I was taller than him.) I think he could sell gordon on the fact that the only teams out there that can offer max deals suck pretty hard. He can take great money and lose or he can take good money and win. I think ben will make the right choice. You guys say ben is not important for the bulls future. Man do I disagree with that. His is inconsistent I will give you all that. But he has become more and more consistent. You don't average 21 ppg from being inconsistent. No player has been as clutch as ben has for chicago. Remember his first season? He won 15 games for the bulls himself. You guys know his nickname here in chicago, right? "Mr. Fourth Quarter". If we lost ben our offense would take a big hit. Sure there are guys who could step in and pick up the scoring slack. But let me say this- There is a difference between a scorer and a clutch scorer. Ben has hit big shots when the bulls needed them. Players like that are hard to find. On another note- Deng is a keeper, and if pax even considers dealing him I will boycot every bulls game until pax is out of office. Loul is going to be an allstar this year no dought. It's about time a chicago guy shows his face in an allstar game.

I see what you mean, I guess I've been focusing so much on the fact that he's pretty inconsistant that I've forgotten his clutch shooting. And that kind of stuff doesn't show through on Fantasy stats. God, I can't wait for the season to start, my first one that I'll have cable for.

[Azyiu]

Originally Posted by ibzrg1570

God, I can't wait for the season to start, my first one that I'll have cable for.

Good for you

I remember back then when I was still living in AZ, I had the NBA League Pass package, man, it was heaven!!! It's too bad they do not have that kind of package here in Hong "Commies Infested" Kong...