[GH0STrider]

That's why it is called a exception I believe azyiu. And regardless of any tax penalties the knicks owner has the money to spend. He is paying isiah remember? haha.

[ibzrg1570]

What I don't get is how they could have such a high payroll and still suck. You'd think they'd spend all that money on some good players that could actually make a difference. I have no idea what Isaiah is thinking.

[GH0STrider]

They do have good players. The problem is not the talent. It is the coaching and managment. All thomas did was go out there and stack up names. curry, crawford, marbury, richardson, jefferies, francis, randalph, james, ect. He went out and signed any half way decent name or free agent. He didn't bother to think about chemistry. Which at this point it is obvious this team has none. Honestly even with two of the most talented post players in the game this team wont do more than .500 ball and a first round exit next season. They don't have proven winners at the nba level or players who are determind to win imo. I watched crawford and curry half ass it for 4 season apiece here in chicago. Marbury has won 1 playoff game in 12 seasons. Their core knows nothing about winning or how it is done at this level and what's worse is they don't have managment that is concerned with that. They need to focus on bringing in talent with the right attitudes from winning systems. If you look at the succesful teams in the nba it starts with that. Stacking up a team of egos isn't going to get you anything but a bunch of egomanics fighting over who is going to be the star. While they are fighting over who gets the ball the other team is kicking the shit out of them.

[Azyiu]

^ I cannot agreed with you more, well said.

Also, the Portland Jailblazers were managed and put together the same way back in the late 90's. They were better in a sense, cuz at least they were able to win some big games out west. That said, chemistry is a big thing, man. Once they started losing a few games, they just couldn't get back on track at all. Oh, and I still remember what then Portland GM John Nash said. He went:"I am not a Chemistry major" What a famous last word kind of quote!

[ibzrg1570]

Well when I said good I meant more along the lines of Lebron, Kobe, or KG good. With all that money they're throwing at moderately good players they could probably afford to have the whole Eastern Conference All-Star Team starting lineup.

[Azyiu]

^ Well, I see what you mean now. Then again, I hate to say it, but some players are just overpaid / over-valued by GMs. Or, in some rare cases, they just got lazy when they start making the real money. So in this case, the Knicks' management needs to take some of the blames for over paying some lesser players, but it is not entirely their fault either. Guys like Jerome James just got lazy as soon as he signed his deal.

[MetalMike]

Originally Posted by ibzrg1570

What I don't get is how they could have such a high payroll and still suck. You'd think they'd spend all that money on some good players that could actually make a difference. I have no idea what Isaiah is thinking.

Jerome James. /thread

[GH0STrider]

Originally Posted by ibzrg1570

Well when I said good I meant more along the lines of Lebron, Kobe, or KG good. With all that money they're throwing at moderately good players they could probably afford to have the whole Eastern Conference All-Star Team starting lineup.

if you consider jebron, kobe, and kg just "good" then you are really undervaluing them dude. Those guys are great. There are millions of players out there. Only 450 get to play on the biggest stage in the world, the nba. Trust me if you have an nab jersey on your back you are good. numbers can be decieving. There are lots of guys whose numbers suck because they are on a crowded roster and simply haven't been given the chance to play much for example.

[ibzrg1570]

Originally Posted by GH0STrider

if you consider jebron, kobe, and kg just "good" then you are really undervaluing them dude. Those guys are great. There are millions of players out there. Only 450 get to play on the biggest stage in the world, the nba. Trust me if you have an nab jersey on your back you are good. numbers can be decieving. There are lots of guys whose numbers suck because they are on a crowded roster and simply haven't been given the chance to play much for example.

Okay, let me re-explain myself. When I first said "good" I meant what you would consider "great", meaning an above-average NBA player. I don't consider any player on the Knicks "good".

In other news, KG is going to the Celtics.
Source: Celtics, Timberwolves agree to send Garnett to Boston - NBA - Yahoo! Sports

[Azyiu]

Originally Posted by ibzrg1570

In other news, KG is going to the Celtics.
Source: Celtics, Timberwolves agree to send Garnett to Boston - NBA - Yahoo! Sports

Whoa whoa! Hold your horses there, cowboy. It is NOT a done deal as reported by Yahoo! Sports, buddy. According to this ESPN article it isn't a done deal yet. Besides, this article was updated a few hours after the one you posted, so it is supposedly the latest info? I don't know, we will see.

ESPN - Sources: Celtics, Wolves closing in on KG trade - NBA

If this deal go thru, the Celtics would pretty much be an instant contender, but they still need to go thru the Pistons and/or the Bulls, Cavs + Heat. Even with KG and Ray Ray, I don't see them really beating a great defensive team like the Pistons in 7 games.