[GH0STrider]

Against tim duncan sure that might be true. But who doesn't have a hard time getting around tim? Amare is pretty strong. And when he throws it down he throws it down hard. I think he is much more solid in the paint than your giving him credit for. He plays center and averages 20 ppg. He is getting his points in the paint. He also has a decent curl and gets to the line. I guess your looking for a big big body. Like dwight howard or shaq. If that is the case- that would help any team.

[heavyjeffd]

Yeah, I was thinking more like Howard.

Amare's curl is better than his low post IMO.

And nah, I didn't mean just vs. Duncan, I was just generalizing. He struggled vs. the Lakers too, at least what I watched.

He's like a big guy that's not really a big guy-type player.

[Azyiu]

Well, both Jeff and Mr. Blackcock have a solid point, but the big man issue is really a tricky one to answer. I mean, do you want a good big guy? Or a big MOBILE guy?

In all due respects, I think Mr. Blackcock is right about Amare. He is better than what he is given credit for. Look at D-Howard, I like that kid and he seems to have all the tool as well. The problem with a guy like him is, he is not offensively aggressive enough, much like Yao! When you have a good center who doesn't always look FOR his shots, or be aggressive enough to score; it is hard on your team.

All in all, I think the Suns' style is not a problem. Hell, the 80's Lakers' run & gun won 5 championships! I think the Suns' problem is their failure in dictating the tempo of the game. Unless the 80's Lakers, they often are played into other team's tempo. Not getting enough rebounds is one issue, but I think their inability to trap and force turnovers are both concerning. At times this season, even my terrible Lakers trap better than the Suns!


EDIT: Congrats, Jeff.

[GH0STrider]

damn it. but i too conceed. Congrats Jeff. I wish I had the feeling of my team winning it all. As for the cavs- they better get a better scorer in there to compliment james. An actual pg wouldn't hurt either.

[heavyjeffd]

Woot.

I REALLY didn't expect a sweep, I thought Spurs in 5 at BEST, probably 6. I really expected the Cav's to take at least one game. But the Spurs controlled every game SO much. I think the discrepencies between the East and West is getting larger every year.

Although, not that long ago the Finals went 7 games Spurs vs. Pistons, so it can't be THAT bad... *shrug* I still don't think the Cav's could've beaten any of the teams that were in the West semi's: Suns (no way), Spurs (apparently not), Jazz (I think the Jazz would've won eventually, probably would've been a closer series though), Golden State (maybe, and man that would've been a cool series).

I shall be sporting one of my Spurs jerseys to work tomorrow, I have a business lunch too but fuck it.

Cavs: REALLY need a big guy OTHER than Ilgauskas (or however you spell it) and JESUS do they need a PG. LeBron has been the consumate professional in all the press conferences, hats off to him for sure. Also a daddy again, grats for that too. Anyone notice all the Spurs congratulating him prior to the game? I thought that was pretty cool.

Suns: Amare IS probably better than what he gets credit for, but that sorta makes my point. If he's better than whatever credit he gets, maybe he needs to start showing it. I'm sure he's got the talent, he just needs to define his role a little better IMO.

[ibzrg1570]

Congrats on the sweep, I'm going to be laughing at my friend "the witness" later today when we meet at graduation (even though I was secretly hoping for an upset as well). I totally agree on Ilgauskas and the PG situation. Z's been going downhill for years now and it's time to find someone else. Hughes is not a true PG and can't be expected to do it especially when he's hurt. If Damon Jones could play like he did when he was with the Heat it would make things a lot easier for LBJ and Gibson too as another 3 point threat. Donyell Marshall too for that matter.

[heavyjeffd]

Hughes is more of a SG to me, I can't see him setting the pace.

Too bad the Cav's will be high enough in the rankings every year for quite a while now to not get a good pick. They sure could use a high draft pick right now.

[Azyiu]

Originally Posted by heavyjeffd

They sure could use a high draft pick right now.

Yes and no. I mean, if you have a good GM who knows what he is doing, he could create something out of nothing! Besides, high draft picks do not necessarily translate into good players. Remember who is Ed O'Bannon? Ron Mercer? Just to name a couple here...

Hell, need me to remind you Tony Parker is a LATE first rounder? What about your homie Manu? He is a damn LATE second rounder, my friend. I do not think the Spurs got lucky, RC Buford simply knows what he is doing, and he just worked hard behind the scene. Oh, and the Spurs signed Bowen away from the Heat for cheap, remember? It is not about what draft(s) you got, it is ALL about the GM.

[heavyjeffd]

True that.

I think coaching too honestly. I know Brown is a relative n00b to being a head coach, but he seemed overwhelmed a lot.

I think his systems could use a lot of work, he should get himself some help as well.

And is it just me or does Mike Brown = Mr. Potatohead?

[Azyiu]

Originally Posted by heavyjeffd

I think coaching too honestly. I know Brown is a relative n00b to being a head coach, but he seemed overwhelmed a lot.

Before the Finals even got started, I said Brown is not nearly as good a coach as Pop right now, and a certain Mr.Blackcock disagreed on that....