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MetalMike · 06-01-2007, 01:46 PM

Lebron's performance was nothing short of amazing. The MJ comparisons are inevitable bearing the fact that this guy took over the entire team to lead them to a huge road win. My jaw dropped after every play. It was compeltely unbelievable.

IMO the Cavs have the best chance of winning the NBA championship between the 3 teams. They have proved that they are a force to be reckoned with and will be finally get the respect they deserve in the NBA.

GH0STrider · 06-01-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MetalMike

IMO the Cavs have the best chance of winning the NBA championship between the 3 teams. They have proved that they are a force to be reckoned with and will be finally get the respect they deserve in the NBA.

yeah they deserve the respect- BUT how can you say that have the best chance? The don't have the experience, bench, consistancy, coaching, or all around team that the pistons and spurs have. Not to mention this is the cavs first trip to the conferece finals since 92 i believe. the spurs have won 4 tittles in 8 years- the pistons have been to the finals twice in 4 years, won it once, and been to the conference finals 5 years in a row now. I'd say the cavs have the worst shot. The pistons strive under this kind of preasure. And as much as I'm routing for the cavs I can see them blowing it. Lebron was Jordon esqe in game 5- something he imo has not been until that point and I don't see it all of the sudden happening consistantly at this point.

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Also, Pop is a much better coach than Mike Brown ever will be. .

I really don't see how you can say that. Mike brown has only been an nba head coach for 2 seasons. In those two seasons he took a team that had not been in the playoffs since what 96? and brought them to the semis his first year and conference finals this year. Not to mention he won 50 games each season. Find me another head coach that in his first season won 50 games. Pop on the other hand has also been at it as a head coach for 11 years. guess what he did his first season? 17 wins. the next he did 56. so...

Mike brown after 2 seasons- 100-62
pop after 2 seasons 73-73. ( and mind you he only coached 64 games his first season. God only knows how bad it might have gotten.)

also despite winning 56 in his second season- pop got bounced in the second round. so you see that comparison is as far off as mj and lebron. It really can't be made yet. wait till brown has coached 11 seaons then make that judgment.

MetalMike · 06-01-2007, 05:31 PM

GR: The Cavs are about to reverse sweep the pistons and they beat the Spurs on every occassion this season. You're right. They don't have the best chance. The statistics are just in their favor. I feel like Lebron wants an NBA championship much more than any player left in contention right now. The way I see it, that fact alone puts the Cavs at a huge advantage.

heavyjeffd · 06-01-2007, 07:29 PM

Brown is in a much easier division than the West and honestly, LeBron is his team and probably does more "coaching" than he does (if you listen to much post-game radio/interviews). Last night after the game he was plainly saying "I just let LeBron run the show and do what he needed to do."

Not to take anything away from him, but Azyiu is certainly right about Pops being a better coach than Brown. Brown has a promising start, but a long way to go.

Where the Cav's are right now has a lot more to do with LeBron than Brown.

I do agree that LeBron is probably more hungry for a championship than anyone, but that doesn't mean he'll get it. The Pistons and Spurs both have excellent defense, if the Pistons wake up, the Cav's are in trouble. The Spurs can control LeBron as that's the only person they have to control. They'll simply just keep the ball away from him.

GH0STrider · 06-01-2007, 08:23 PM

the pistons swept the heat last year too, and wooped them in every game. How did they play out for them in the playoffs? I would not be one bit suprised to see the spurs sweep the cavs in the finals. The comparison between brown and pop is way premature at this point. its as rediculous as comparing lebron to mj.

Azyiu · 06-02-2007, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GH0STrider

I really don't see how you can say that. Mike brown has only been an nba head coach for 2 seasons. In those two seasons he took a team that had not been in the playoffs since what 96? and brought them to the semis his first year and conference finals this year. Not to mention he won 50 games each season. Find me another head coach that in his first season won 50 games. Pop on the other hand has also been at it as a head coach for 11 years. guess what he did his first season? 17 wins. the next he did 56. so...

Mike brown after 2 seasons- 100-62
pop after 2 seasons 73-73. ( and mind you he only coached 64 games his first season. God only knows how bad it might have gotten.)

also despite winning 56 in his second season- pop got bounced in the second round. so you see that comparison is as far off as mj and lebron. It really can't be made yet. wait till brown has coached 11 seaons then make that judgment.

Ok, you might be right and I should give Brown a benefit of a doubt in his coaching.

About Pop's coaching, he took over a team (in Dec. 1996) that was hurt by major injuries. 4 of their 5 regular starters missed most of the 96 - 97 season. How bad they were in the 96 - 97, you ask? They signed the aging Dominique Wilkens and with all of their injuries, Nique actually had to play the PF spot!!!!! They sucked that year, but their reward was Duncan.

In the 97 - 98, Pop's first full season, the Spurs going from winning just 20 games in the previous season, to winning 56 the next year? Sure, anyone can win with Robinson and Duncan, but mind I remind you that it was Duncan's rookie year. And you are also correct, they lost in the season round. In fact, they lost to the Utah Jazz 1-4, but I have no problem with them losing to the Utah Jazz. Hell, the Jazz were at their peak between 1996 - 1998. In that same conference finals, they even destroyed the Lakers (with Shaq and Kobe, mind you) 4-0!!!!! So what is so ashame about losing in the second round to the mighty Jazz? My point is, I might not be a Spurs fan, but I know Pop deserve more credit than people have given him. He is a much better coach than alot of people out there realize.

heavyjeffd · 06-02-2007, 11:58 PM

Cav's and Spurs it is!!!

MetalMike · 06-03-2007, 12:13 AM

Go Cavs!

Azyiu · 06-03-2007, 12:16 AM

ALL HAIL THE KING!!!!!

heavyjeffd · 06-03-2007, 12:26 AM

I'm really glad to see LeBron get his team to the finals, it's an amazing achievement, no question.

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GH0STrider Resident Gangsta Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dekalb Posts: 1,703 Real Name: Jack blackcock Main Seven: 2001 Ibanez RG7421XL Rig: Roland/Crate Thanked: 4	the pistons swept the heat last year too, and wooped them in every game. How did they play out for them in the playoffs? I would not be one bit suprised to see the spurs sweep the cavs in the finals. The comparison between brown and pop is way premature at this point. its as rediculous as comparing lebron to mj.

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