[heavyjeffd]

Originally Posted by Azyiu

He stepped out onto the court, in what looks like an attempt to see the action. Same thing for Boris Diaw.

That's all that matters. They stepped on the court, the rest is irrevelevant.

I do not want to bring this up, but earlier in the game there WAS a near altercation (second quarter, when Jones commited a hard foul on Parker, I think) in which Tim Duncan stepped several feet onto the court to see the action, and Bruce Bowen stepped after him to pull him back... and what about that?

Of course the Suns brought that up (par for the course). It was reviewed by the NBA, there was NO altercation (no shoving/swinging/name calling/etc) so no suspensions were given.

The rule is incredibly simple and clear: If there's a fight and you step on the court from the bench, you WILL be suspended. No exceptions.

It doesn't matter if you think you saw jesus, you will be suspended.

Horry actually got two seperate suspensions. One for the hit on Nash (which while it was a bad hit, if you watch the film from multiple angles, Nash was floppin' around like an atypical NBA drama queen) and one for putting his forearm up in Bell's face.

The Spurs players, if you notice, did NOT leave the bench or step on the court. They all knew BETTER.

Fight + step on the court = get suspended.

Pretty simple, hombre.

[Azyiu]

Originally Posted by heavyjeffd

Fight + step on the court = get suspended.

Fight? What fight? I only know Horry should have picked on someone his own size!

Let's just agree to disagree on this.

Game 5 is history, let's look forward to Game 6. I still believe the Suns are an overall better team than the Spurs.

[heavyjeffd]

Originally Posted by Azyiu

Let's just agree to disagree on this.

Game 5 is history, let's look forward to Game 6. I still believe the Suns are an overall better team than the Spurs.

Well, there's nothing to disagree or agree on.

It's simply an NBA rule. Take it up with them honkey!

I don't think the Suns are a better team at all, just different. The Suns are basically a lot like the Nuggets; just another fast break team.

Out of the last five times the Spurs have played the Suns in the playoffs (not including this current series of course), the Suns have lost four times.

The Suns biggest problem is depth, they don't have a lot of it. They don't have two FULL lines. The only played SIX players (seven if you want to count Burke stepping in and stepping out) Wednesday. Nash played 45:59, Bell played 46:40 and Marion played 45:45. Barbosa only played 33:53 and manage to get fould out still.

Thomas looked like he was about to fall over at the half. Two players out or not, they've more or less ensured that everyone OTHER than their bench (which never seems to play) and the two that were suspended will be tired has hell Friday. Not a smart coaching decision on their part.

Hell, even in game 1 the Suns only played eight players (four of which played less than 35 minutes) where the Spurs played ten. Having those extra players that get the rest makes a big difference.

The Nuggets ran their lines the same way and the Spurs just basically wore them down with depth and patience. By the time they got to game 6, the Nuggets were just too tired it looked like. I see a lot of similarities between the Suns and Nuggets series actually (minus the unnecessary drama).

In comparison the Spurs played 10 players with Duncan and Bowen playing the most at 40:30 and 40:25, Parker played 39:29 and Ginobili played 38:01, so their key players were effective AND got to rest. Smart coaching on Pop's part.

And actually, if you really paid attention in game 6, the Spurs started to take over when Duncan was benched. Once he came back out, they continued to try and double team him, but Thomas just had nothing left. Duncan started passing to the perimeter and the Spurs FINALLY stopped rimming shots (I dunno wtf was up with that; bitches were shooting like me! ). Then Duncan just lit them up, they had no one to stop him (and no, don't say it's Stoudemire because he hasn't stopped Duncan yet ).

It's an interesting mix of different play styles. Outside of the Suns crying to the media (which is very low class IMO; if there's TRULY an issue, report it to the NBA, let them handle it and remain professional about it, Stoudemire just made himself look foolish IMO), I've really enjoyed the series, the games have been amazing.

IMO, the Suns have only outplayed the Spurs in 1 game this series.

We'll see what happens tomorrow I guess.

Originally Posted by Azyiu

Fight? What fight? I only know Horry should have picked on someone his own size!

The fight was technically between Horry and Bell. Bell got forearmed (sort of) in the face by Horry because he jumped up and grabbed him.

Although Nash did jump up and grab Horry too, but nothing came of that.

[drelo]

Originally Posted by rummy

LOL you post here, too?

Just signed up yesterday

[GH0STrider]

wasn't one of them just sitting there getting ready to check in or something?

its bullshit that horry got 2 games for checking someone and then throwing an elbow and amare and diaw got one just for standing up. those rules need to be seriously reevaluated. If the spurs win this series there should be a * right next to it. Stern won it for them.

[heavyjeffd]

Someone call a wahmbulance.

[GH0STrider]

Originally Posted by heavyjeffd

Someone call a wahmbulance.

As an nba fan I wanted to to see the top talent. Because of your stern we were deprived of that for no good reason. I garuntee had it been duncan gettin suspended a game you'd fill a river with tears.

[heavyjeffd]

You assume Stern actually had something to do with it (which he most likely did not).

If you want to blame someone for enforcing the rules, blame Stu Jackson.

"It's not a matter of fairness," said Stu Jackson, the league's enforcement czar. "It's a matter of correctness."

Now, there's a statement that will go down in jurisprudence history.

Originally Posted by GH0STrider

I garuntee had it been duncan gettin suspended a game you'd fill a river with tears.

If Duncan got suspended for doing something stupid (like forearming someone or running on-court during a fight) I'd be pissed at HIM for being a moron, NOT at the NBA for enforcing the rules.



My predictions were correct:

NBA.com: Houston Rockets and Jeff Van Gundy to Part Ways

[drelo]

Let's go Cavs and Suns

[heavyjeffd]

Suns.

Even a big 3pt shooter short, the Suns still go down.

I still have a lot of respect for Nash, but D'Antoni and Stoudemire are two of the biggest crybabies I've ever seen in professional sports. D'Antoni was sulklng up and down the sidelines like a fucking three year old in a toy store that was told he can't have a new toy. Disgraceful and pathetic. They are so quick to blame everyone (the NBA, the Spurs, the press) for all their problems but THEMSELVES.

I swear I thought D'Antoni was going to have a heart attack, it was pretty

Nash finally admitted it in the post game press conference that you can't win championships with six players. He's the ONLY one so far to have the balls to say it.

If the Suns had devoted as much energy to defense and strategy as they do to pissing and moaning and pointing fingers, they might have actually won.