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ibzrg1570 · 10-30-2007, 02:16 PM

I am so going to watch the Lakers-Rockets game, I'm really excited to see how Houston works out the PG situation.

GH0STrider · 10-30-2007, 07:40 PM

The franchise is back baby!

Seriously though-

Houstons point guards currently on their roster-
Rafer Alston
Steve francis
Mike James
Luther Head
Aaron Brooks

Now that my friends is one crowded backcourt. I think I'm starting Mike James hands down. Although if francis can produce anywhere near the same as he was a few years ago... I think you have to look at francis as more of a 2 guard. He isn't going to run the offense, he is going to want to be the offense. Maybe start him at the 2. Although they do have bonzi wells there too. It's an interesting situation and I look forward to see how adelman handles it tonight.

Azyiu · 10-30-2007, 09:10 PM

I'd say small ball ALL the way, and play 4 guards on the floor with Yao be the PC!

Now that's some creative Don Nelson-que coaching for you!

GH0STrider · 10-30-2007, 09:25 PM

nah, they are pretty big at every other position. Their 2 guard spot is the only position lacking height.

Where the .... is jeff??? Shouldn't he be in here glowing over the spurs getting their rings tonight?

Wow- alston gets the start?? what the hell. Over james and francis??

Azyiu- the crowd actually booed kobe during player introductions.

Azyiu · 10-30-2007, 10:03 PM

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Where the .... is jeff??? Shouldn't he be in here glowing over the spurs getting their rings tonight?

I hate to guess, but something tells me he was at the game... damn!

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Wow- alston gets the start?? what the hell. Over james and francis??

This might be a good move, actually. With James and Francis off the bench, the Rockets' second unit will have NO problem scoring. It will be a nightmare for their opponents. Really, I don't think it is a bad move.

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Azyiu- the crowd actually booed kobe during player introductions.

You know? If I were at the game, I might boo him as well. While I understand he is frustrated at the management, I do not think he handled the whole thing well at all. Now Kobe basically did nothing but further making things worse.

Who knows? Every game he plays now could be his last in the purple and gold.

ibzrg1570 · 10-31-2007, 12:46 AM

OMG did you guys see the Rockets-Lakers game? That was so intense, the last 2 minutes I was going crazy, I'm so happy my man Yao pulled through for me. And Luke Walton scoring on his own basket: priceless.

Azyiu · 10-31-2007, 02:03 AM

Only watched the highlights. (well, I am stuck here in the office

)

Well, I am not too worry about losing this early in the season, rather I am just not too happy with the way this game was played. Kobe took 32 shots and only making what? Like 13fgs or something? That is not effective basketball. I know Odom is still out and he must take on the scoring. Still, he needs to share the ball with the other 4 guys or they can't win! That said, the Lakers' early schedule doesn't look too encouraging either. @ Phoenix, then play the Jazz, Hornets, and the Spurs in the first 6 games? Oh my...

The Dark Wolf · 10-31-2007, 02:45 AM

Kobe = talented.

Ball hoggery = teh L0ze.

I think there's too much trade hype type shit going on. Kobe was off as .... on his free throws. He looked like he was... full of energy, but very distracted.

ibzrg1570 · 10-31-2007, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dark Wolf

Kobe = talented.

Ball hoggery = teh L0ze.

I think there's too much trade hype type shit going on. Kobe was off as .... on his free throws. He looked like he was... full of energy, but very distracted.

Well you might have noticed his arm was in a sleeve, he's got some sort of wrist injury I think. Until yesterday he was questionable to play in the opener.

I think he looked pretty focused throughout the game, he was just really frustrated with his teammates because whenever he made a play they weren't there to help. Of course ball-hogging is the fundamental source of that problem, but the blame game's a two way street.

Azyiu · 10-31-2007, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ibzrg1570

I think he looked pretty focused throughout the game, he was just really frustrated with his teammates because whenever he made a play they weren't there to help. Of course ball-hogging is the fundamental source of that problem, but the blame game's a two way street.

Thanks, Derek, you are absolutely correct!

GH0STrider · 10-31-2007, 10:16 AM

How about adelman? He did not play steve fracis at all. He was suited up and at the end of teh bench. Pretty hard for me to swallow that. Just a year and a half ago this guy was doing 20ppg. He could have really helped in those houston cold spots. PLus I think he would really be great in that run and gun offense the rockets are trying to do now. Mike james looked really good though. ANd tracy caught fire. wow. ANd luke walton.... I guess he wants to be traded too. I didn't know he wanted to be a rocket so bad that he would start scoring for them while still in a lakers jersey.

ibzrg1570 · 10-31-2007, 05:50 PM

I think ideally the Rockets should start Mike James and make Francis the primary backup. Alston's a good player, but his shooting is too erratic and he isn't the best role model with his criminal record.

Azyiu · 10-31-2007, 09:13 PM

I never really liked Francis all that much, so I really don't feel bad for him. Then again, the stats said DNP CD next to his name, Mr.Blackcock, it is purely Adelman's decision not to play him. Who knows? Maybe Francis didn't share his In & Out's with Adelman and that pissed him off?

GH0STrider · 10-31-2007, 09:52 PM

Honestly though, Francis is a player that should thrive in Adelman's run and gun system.

Azyiu · 10-31-2007, 10:08 PM

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Honestly though, Francis is a player that should thrive in Adelman's run and gun system.

You are right about 4 years ago. I doubt Francis could even run for 8 mins these days. I hope I am wrong, but based on what I saw from the latter part of his Magic dayz and his time in NY, I seriously doubt he could play like he used to anymore.

BTW, just came across to this video (too bored in the office), one of the best dunks of all-time, I know you would love it, Mr. Blackcock. Oh, what game was it in that series? I forgot.

GH0STrider · 10-31-2007, 10:11 PM

Azyiu- I long for whatever job it is you have that allows you to watch the greatest bull and player the nba has ever seen. Thanks for that.

Azyiu · 10-31-2007, 10:53 PM

^ Hehehe... you will get there... I am just lucky my boss usually does not arrive to the office until lunch time.

That said, I guess we ALL want Jeff's job for sure.

So hey, what game is that in that series?

GH0STrider · 10-31-2007, 11:32 PM

I don't remember. I was pretty young when that game took place. I've seen many of those game but i do not recall of the top of my head.

Azyiu · 11-01-2007, 10:18 PM

^ guess I am too bored

And I went check out which game that was

It was actually Game 3 of the 1991 playoffs in the first round. YOUR Bulls swept that series 3-0. And ahhhh... I am not sure about you, but I truly miss those 5-game first round format. I think it is more exciting playing a short series. Your thought?

GH0STrider · 11-03-2007, 12:42 AM

I trully enjoy the 7 game first round series. If gives us more basketball for one and it allows fewer upsets. If you get beat 4 times out of 7 I think you are the better team. 3 out of 5? eh... everyteam has bad streches. I don't like seeing to many upsets. It makes for crappy basketball in the later rounds. Take golden state vs. utah last year for example. That series sucked for the most part. Then look at utah vs. san antonio- not a fun series to watch either (unless you name is jeff). I think 7 games is more efficient in making sure the better team advances.

Azyiu · 11-03-2007, 01:53 AM

^ you have a good point, but then again, if you are the higher seeded team (say, #1 or #2); you are supposed to win the first round no ifs, ands, ors, buts. If you are the better team and suddenly suck like the Mavs last year, boo hoo!

It sucks to be in Hong Kong as an NBA fan, I tell ya!!! We got the Wiz @ Celtics game live, but that was it!!!

Dude, I love KG and all, but it sucks to have just one game on; when you know it is a doubleheaders night in the US.

GH0STrider · 11-03-2007, 02:44 AM

I had 3 games to watch tonight. it was awesome.

Azyiu · 11-03-2007, 11:31 PM

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I had 3 games to watch tonight. it was awesome.

Shut up you!

Oh, how about Yi?

GH0STrider · 11-04-2007, 12:43 AM

.... yi. He got lucky. Once the bulls get going that shit won't happen again.

Azyiu · 11-04-2007, 08:22 PM

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.... yi. He got lucky. Once the bulls get going that shit won't happen again.

Sounds like someone doesn't take losing very well.

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10-30-2007, 09:10 PM	#978
Azyiu Triad Hitman Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hong "Commies Infested" Kong Posts: 2,668 Thanked: 24 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'd say small ball ALL the way, and play 4 guards on the floor with Yao be the PC! Now that's some creative Don Nelson-que coaching for you! 1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2009, 2010

10-30-2007, 09:25 PM	#979
GH0STrider Resident Gangsta Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 2,182 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	nah, they are pretty big at every other position. Their 2 guard spot is the only position lacking height. Where the .... is jeff??? Shouldn't he be in here glowing over the spurs getting their rings tonight? Wow- alston gets the start?? what the hell. Over james and francis?? Azyiu- the crowd actually booed kobe during player introductions. Last edited by GH0STrider; 10-30-2007 at 09:54 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

10-31-2007, 02:03 AM	#982
Azyiu Triad Hitman Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hong "Commies Infested" Kong Posts: 2,668 Thanked: 24 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Only watched the highlights. (well, I am stuck here in the office ) Well, I am not too worry about losing this early in the season, rather I am just not too happy with the way this game was played. Kobe took 32 shots and only making what? Like 13fgs or something? That is not effective basketball. I know Odom is still out and he must take on the scoring. Still, he needs to share the ball with the other 4 guys or they can't win! That said, the Lakers' early schedule doesn't look too encouraging either. @ Phoenix, then play the Jazz, Hornets, and the Spurs in the first 6 games? Oh my... 1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2009, 2010

10-31-2007, 02:45 AM	#983
The Dark Wolf *Canis lupis obscurus* Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toledo, Ohio. USA Posts: 15,475 Thanked: 94 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Kobe = talented. Ball hoggery = teh L0ze. I think there's too much trade hype type shit going on. Kobe was off as .... on his free throws. He looked like he was... full of energy, but very distracted. http://www.wolf.org

10-30-2007, 02:16 PM	#976
ibzrg1570 ??? Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Berkeley, CA Posts: 1,193 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am so going to watch the Lakers-Rockets game, I'm really excited to see how Houston works out the PG situation.

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10-30-2007, 07:40 PM	#977
GH0STrider Resident Gangsta Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 2,182 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The franchise is back baby! Seriously though- Houstons point guards currently on their roster- Rafer Alston Steve francis Mike James Luther Head Aaron Brooks Now that my friends is one crowded backcourt. I think I'm starting Mike James hands down. Although if francis can produce anywhere near the same as he was a few years ago... I think you have to look at francis as more of a 2 guard. He isn't going to run the offense, he is going to want to be the offense. Maybe start him at the 2. Although they do have bonzi wells there too. It's an interesting situation and I look forward to see how adelman handles it tonight.

10-31-2007, 12:46 AM	#981
ibzrg1570 ??? Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Berkeley, CA Posts: 1,193 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	OMG did you guys see the Rockets-Lakers game? That was so intense, the last 2 minutes I was going crazy, I'm so happy my man Yao pulled through for me. And Luke Walton scoring on his own basket: priceless.

10-31-2007, 10:16 AM	#986
GH0STrider Resident Gangsta Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 2,182 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	How about adelman? He did not play steve fracis at all. He was suited up and at the end of teh bench. Pretty hard for me to swallow that. Just a year and a half ago this guy was doing 20ppg. He could have really helped in those houston cold spots. PLus I think he would really be great in that run and gun offense the rockets are trying to do now. Mike james looked really good though. ANd tracy caught fire. wow. ANd luke walton.... I guess he wants to be traded too. I didn't know he wanted to be a rocket so bad that he would start scoring for them while still in a lakers jersey.

10-31-2007, 05:50 PM	#987
ibzrg1570 ??? Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Berkeley, CA Posts: 1,193 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think ideally the Rockets should start Mike James and make Francis the primary backup. Alston's a good player, but his shooting is too erratic and he isn't the best role model with his criminal record.

10-31-2007, 09:13 PM	#988
Azyiu Triad Hitman Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hong "Commies Infested" Kong Posts: 2,668 Thanked: 24 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I never really liked Francis all that much, so I really don't feel bad for him. Then again, the stats said DNP CD next to his name, Mr.Blackcock, it is purely Adelman's decision not to play him. Who knows? Maybe Francis didn't share his In & Out's with Adelman and that pissed him off? 1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2009, 2010

10-31-2007, 09:52 PM	#989
GH0STrider Resident Gangsta Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 2,182 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Honestly though, Francis is a player that should thrive in Adelman's run and gun system.

10-31-2007, 10:11 PM	#991
GH0STrider Resident Gangsta Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 2,182 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Azyiu- I long for whatever job it is you have that allows you to watch the greatest bull and player the nba has ever seen. Thanks for that.

10-31-2007, 10:53 PM	#992
Azyiu Triad Hitman Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hong "Commies Infested" Kong Posts: 2,668 Thanked: 24 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ Hehehe... you will get there... I am just lucky my boss usually does not arrive to the office until lunch time. That said, I guess we ALL want Jeff's job for sure. So hey, what game is that in that series? 1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2009, 2010

10-31-2007, 11:32 PM	#993
GH0STrider Resident Gangsta Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 2,182 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I don't remember. I was pretty young when that game took place. I've seen many of those game but i do not recall of the top of my head.

11-01-2007, 10:18 PM	#994
Azyiu Triad Hitman Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hong "Commies Infested" Kong Posts: 2,668 Thanked: 24 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ guess I am too bored And I went check out which game that was It was actually Game 3 of the 1991 playoffs in the first round. YOUR Bulls swept that series 3-0. And ahhhh... I am not sure about you, but I truly miss those 5-game first round format. I think it is more exciting playing a short series. Your thought? 1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2009, 2010

11-03-2007, 12:42 AM	#995
GH0STrider Resident Gangsta Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 2,182 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I trully enjoy the 7 game first round series. If gives us more basketball for one and it allows fewer upsets. If you get beat 4 times out of 7 I think you are the better team. 3 out of 5? eh... everyteam has bad streches. I don't like seeing to many upsets. It makes for crappy basketball in the later rounds. Take golden state vs. utah last year for example. That series sucked for the most part. Then look at utah vs. san antonio- not a fun series to watch either (unless you name is jeff). I think 7 games is more efficient in making sure the better team advances.

11-03-2007, 01:53 AM	#996
Azyiu Triad Hitman Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hong "Commies Infested" Kong Posts: 2,668 Thanked: 24 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ you have a good point, but then again, if you are the higher seeded team (say, #1 or #2); you are supposed to win the first round no ifs, ands, ors, buts. If you are the better team and suddenly suck like the Mavs last year, boo hoo! It sucks to be in Hong Kong as an NBA fan, I tell ya!!! We got the Wiz @ Celtics game live, but that was it!!! Dude, I love KG and all, but it sucks to have just one game on; when you know it is a doubleheaders night in the US. 1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2009, 2010

11-03-2007, 02:44 AM	#997
GH0STrider Resident Gangsta Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 2,182 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I had 3 games to watch tonight. it was awesome.

11-04-2007, 12:43 AM	#999
GH0STrider Resident Gangsta Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 2,182 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	.... yi. He got lucky. Once the bulls get going that shit won't happen again.

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