[Azyiu]

I don't buy that shit, dude. After all, Yao was out during a big part of the Rockets' 22-game win streak. That means they can certainly play at a high level without Yao. Plus, you play with what you've got instead of worrying about what you might have. I don't know, man, I didn't watch the game; but the recaps say T-Mac simply "disappeared", "went cold"... that doesn't sound promising if I were a Rockets fan. Oh, and did I mentioned the Jazz were 37-4 at home this season? Ouch!

[GH0STrider]

Originally Posted by Azyiu

I don't buy that shit, dude. After all, Yao was out during a big part of the Rockets' 22-game win streak. That means they can certainly play at a high level without Yao. Plus, you play with what you've got instead of worrying about what you might have. I don't know, man, I didn't watch the game; but the recaps say T-Mac simply "disappeared", "went cold"... that doesn't sound promising if I were a Rockets fan. Oh, and did I mentioned the Jazz were 37-4 at home this season? Ouch!

Oh yeah? take a look at who they beat during that streak. There was a lot of poor teams. SO what if they can play against shit teams, utah is not a shit team. Obviously they aren't full force. They are without their starting center and point guard. Yeah injuries are part of the game, but c'mon... You have NO post presence and the man running your offense is out. That is a damn big blow. And don't listen to what you read. Mcgrady was off the charts last night

23 points
13 rebounds
9 assists
2 blocks
3 steals

what else would you like him to do??? the rest of these guys have to step it up.

Yes they can play at a high level, and they have played well against utah here. These games were close. Neither was a blowout. But with Yao in the line-up... I think it would be Houston with a 2-0 lead.

[Azyiu]

Originally Posted by GH0STrider

Oh yeah? take a look at who they beat during that streak. There was a lot of poor teams.

Of course, but then again, I bet even if they were playing the NBDL Heat for 22 games in a row, they cannot go 22-0. So beating bad teams or not, that was still something to win 22 in a row.

Originally Posted by GH0STrider

SO what if they can play against shit teams, utah is not a shit team. Obviously they aren't full force. They are without their starting center and point guard. Yeah injuries are part of the game, but c'mon... You have NO post presence and the man running your offense is out. That is a damn big blow. And don't listen to what you read. Mcgrady was off the charts last night

23 points
13 rebounds
9 assists
2 blocks
3 steals

what else would you like him to do??? the rest of these guys have to step it up.

Yes they can play at a high level, and they have played well against utah here. These games were close. Neither was a blowout. But with Yao in the line-up... I think it would be Houston with a 2-0 lead.

What I want him to do? Get fit and play 48 full minutes like many other super stars! And for the rest of the Rockets, y'all must step up!

By the way, I think my buddy in Phoenix said it the best about T-Mac, and he went:

Never underestimate the heart of a champion. I don’t think T-Mac has that kind of heart. Great talent but not a winner. He’s been on some crappy teams, and I don’t think he wants to be “the man”. He’ll never win a championship unless Yao comes back next year with a bionic foot or something and has a 70-inch vertical leap and can dunk from the half court line.

Adding what you said about how T-Mac needs Yao in the lineup and all... well...


So how about D-Howard? Two straight 20-20 games, wow!

[GH0STrider]

well no shit dude. To think the rockets are a championship team without yao is just ridiculous. To claim t-mac doesn't have the heart of champion is a joke. He cried last year when houston lost to the jazz in the first round. If he didn't care tears wouldn't be present. Show me one situation he has been in that could actually lead to a tittle- show me one. Toronto- no. Orlando- maybe if grant hill was healthy, but still probably not. Houston- maybe- IF both yao and mcgrady can stay healthy. He has never had managment that could put a CHAMPIONSHIP team around him. Houston is close, all they need is a clean bill of health and I bet they could challenge.

[Azyiu]

I am not saying you don't have a point, but I'd like to see one full consistant season out of T-Mac which I've not seen ever since he got to Houston. This year he is close, but not quite. All I am saying is, I like T-Mac, but his overall performance in the past 3 - 4 seasons is dangerously heading V.Carter's direction in my book... of course, V.Carter is worth shit these days, when he couldn't even bring his team to the playoffs in the east.

Originally Posted by GH0STrider

To claim t-mac doesn't have the heart of champion is a joke. He cried last year when houston lost to the jazz in the first round. If he didn't care tears wouldn't be present.

I don't know, maybe that's his way of expressing himself... but if you are this good, show that to us the paying customers, and keep your head up even if you lose. Crying when you lose? You ain't AK47, girly man. No, seriously, I guess he cried cuz he was thinking "damn, there goes the $3M bonus... damn damn damn!" just kidding...

Ok, I promise I won't make fun of another player who cries when his team loses.

By the way, is it just me? How come I am NOT at all surprised to know the Suns blew yet another big lead and ended up losing to the Spurs?

[heavyjeffd]

Who said that about T-Mac? If it was Amare that would be hillarious.

Talk about pot-meet-kettle.

[GH0STrider]

Originally Posted by Azyiu

I am not saying you don't have a point, but I'd like to see one full consistant season out of T-Mac which I've not seen ever since he got to Houston. This year he is close, but not quite. All I am saying is, I like T-Mac, but his overall performance in the past 3 - 4 seasons is dangerously heading V.Carter's direction in my book... of course, V.Carter is worth shit these days, when he couldn't even bring his team to the playoffs in the east.

consistant? The guy is pretty consistant in what he does man. Watch more rockets games. It's his teammates that hold him back. the nagging injuries and dependancy on him is to much. they need to step up and be the stars themselves sometimes. V.carter? dude don't even compare t-mac to that guy. T-mac still takes it to the basket, he's not just sitting outside shooting 40 percent. T-mac plays good d, unlike vince who still has a puzzled face when coach frank tells him to cover his man.

Originally Posted by Azyiu

I don't know, maybe that's his way of expressing himself... but if you are this good, show that to us the paying customers, and keep your head up even if you lose. Crying when you lose? You ain't AK47, girly man. No, seriously, I guess he cried cuz he was thinking "damn, there goes the $3M bonus... damn damn damn!" just kidding...

Ok, I promise I won't make fun of another player who cries when his team loses.

That's called passion. You of all people I thought would understand that man. The guy plays hard and wants to win. When you have how many 50 + win seasons and still fail at the big stage it can be heart breaking.

Originally Posted by Azyiu

By the way, is it just me? How come I am NOT at all surprised to know the Suns blew yet another big lead and ended up losing to the Spurs?

It's like the spurs are just toying with them. they are letting them have big quarters and and the just shutting them down. they are also exploiting the fact that the suns just can't defend for shit. Shaq is the only guy on the floor defending. Other than that- the suns players are just letting spurs players run right past them. Manu and tony parker should not be getting to the basket that easy. Shaq can't guard kurt thomas, tim duncan, and rush to cover the 1 and 2 fellas. It's sad. No offense Jeff but I really want the suns to win. I'm so sick of watching the spurs and their borring brand of basketball (yes jeff kill me now). Hopefully they can at least make the series more interesting. Like the first half of last nights game.

[Azyiu]

Originally Posted by GH0STrider

consistant? The guy is pretty consistant in what he does man. Watch more rockets games. It's his teammates that hold him back. the nagging injuries and dependancy on him is to much. they need to step up and be the stars themselves sometimes. V.carter? dude don't even compare t-mac to that guy. T-mac still takes it to the basket, he's not just sitting outside shooting 40 percent. T-mac plays good d, unlike vince who still has a puzzled face when coach frank tells him to cover his man.

T-Mac does takes slightly fewer jumpers than Carter, true, but I remember him by being more of a jump shooter in the past few seasons. Seriously, trade his ass to the Bulls and see how you like him.

Originally Posted by GH0STrider

That's called passion. You of all people I thought would understand that man. The guy plays hard and wants to win. When you have how many 50 + win seasons and still fail at the big stage it can be heart breaking.

Guess my sarcasm needs some works

Originally Posted by GH0STrider

It's like the spurs are just toying with them. they are letting them have big quarters and and the just shutting them down. they are also exploiting the fact that the suns just can't defend for shit. Shaq is the only guy on the floor defending. Other than that- the suns players are just letting spurs players run right past them. Manu and tony parker should not be getting to the basket that easy. Shaq can't guard kurt thomas, tim duncan, and rush to cover the 1 and 2 fellas. It's sad. No offense Jeff but I really want the suns to win. I'm so sick of watching the spurs and their borring brand of basketball (yes jeff kill me now). Hopefully they can at least make the series more interesting. Like the first half of last nights game.

Maybe Nash just doesn't have that little magic any more. Combining with the highly inconsistant Diaw and Barbosa, it really doesn't matter what Shaq and Amare do on the floor... hell, forget about fucking Diaw, I want to see Sean Marks in game 3, he is a basketball god!!!

Everybody wants the Spurs... Manu, Parker, T.D., hell, even Pop are overrated. Gosh... I love that stupid fucker Stevenson... So you think the Wiz would or could bonuce back and win game 3? Based on what I read and the highlights I watched, it seems like Jamison is about the only guy who showed up at all. Man, I love what LeBron has been doing... just keeps his mouth shut and let his game speaks for himself. Awesome!!!

Also, what do you think about Isiah Thomas' new role with the Knicks? Demoted from being the Prez to just coach, and now just an advisor and you are not even allowed to talk to the players? Man, I would just fucking resign and leave basketball for good (no one in his right mind would ever offer another job to him)... maybe this is Dolan's way of saying "fuck you" to Thomas for fucking the Knicks up? Man, he is a rich sadistic bastard.


EDIT By the way, I got really bored at work today, and here is my MSN Simpsons' Lakers picture

[GH0STrider]

I would gladly take t-mac on the bulls. He is a team player who plays both ends of the floor. If he could stay healthy the bulls would be great with him in the east.

[Azyiu]

Originally Posted by GH0STrider

I would gladly take t-mac on the bulls. He is a team player who plays both ends of the floor. If he could stay healthy the bulls would be great with him in the east.

Be careful with what you wish for


The Cavs suck and they didn't even show up for game 3! So much for waking up early for this one!!! Everyone was fucking standing around... where is the attack the rim, fight for position down low? There was NONE of that in game 3... wtf? And I think Arenas is done for the series... Stevenson is one hell of a jackass. Did y'all see what he did after he made a 3-ptr in the first half? If he was playing on the road, I might actually instruct one of my big guys to introduce an elbow to his face! Man, where is Robert Horry when you need him? LOL!


I don't know about you guys? I thought the Rockets didn't win game 3, rather the Jazz lost that game. How could you be shooting 60% at the FT line at home?! If they would've made just 3 more damn FTs, there would have been a 3-0 in that series! The Jazz choked, period.


Tomorrow morning (Friday night US time) will be a rare good morning for me. First there is game 3 Hornets @ Mavs (the one game to judge whether the Kidd trade is a mistake or not), followed by Spurs @ Suns in HD no less!!!