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Unread 02-01-2012, 11:15 PM   #1
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Scammer Alert (ugg im kyle/kyl3mcg@gmail.com/xzero09@gmail.com)

So over a year ago I made a deal to trade my Ibanez RG7420 for a Washburn 6 string. I included money to ship the guitar and to have the Ibanez set up. In that time the user has come up with every excuse under the stars not to ship the instrument to me. I'm beyond fed up with him. He's stopped responding to my texts as well. I wouldn't recommend dealing with the user ugg im kyle. He's screwed me over big time on this one. I know he's probably never screwed anyone else over and he seems to be pretty popular around here, but this whole situation has been absolutely unprofessional and criminal.
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Unread 02-01-2012, 11:20 PM   #2
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I would only ever sell to people here taking 100% cash up front and only buy from hardcore gear whores like Mesh, Engage, Adam, Nick, etc...that I know aren't crackheads.
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Unread 02-01-2012, 11:23 PM   #3
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Unread 02-01-2012, 11:26 PM   #4
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Why you waited more than 2 weeks is beyond me

Also to drop this a year later?? Are you serious?
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Unread 02-01-2012, 11:29 PM   #5
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I did use paypal. I'll try that. The only reason I'm dropping this right now is because we had been in contact and he'd seemed to be making an effort to ship it at christmas time. Then he stopped replying to text messages and facebook posts. I'm just fed up and needed to vent this out. I don't want anyone to go through the same thing I have. This isn't a personal attack on Kyle. It may look like it, because he seems to be a good guy, but his conduct when it came to this is beyond unprofessional.
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Unread 02-02-2012, 12:14 AM   #6
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Unread 02-02-2012, 12:29 AM   #7
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Why you waited more than 2 weeks is beyond me

Also to drop this a year later?? Are you serious?
Now admit it! you only entered this thread due to googling "site:sevenstring.org mesh" didnt you ?
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Unread 02-02-2012, 02:26 AM   #8
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It's too bad this deal didn't work out. It's normally better to move on something like this sooner rather than later.

Since every one of your previous posts was purely in pursuit of buying and trading, and your last post before this topic was over a year ago, I'd like to express regret that you never felt the desire to engage more with your fellow members. Since the classifieds were your only interest here, and as even that minimal contact is now at an end, I suppose you're unlikely to suddenly gain any interest in the community as a whole.

I wish you luck in finding a community (if you even want that) and/or for-sale listings which better suit you. Cheers!

If you don't care enough to research your own question, why should anyone else care more?

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Unread 02-02-2012, 08:16 AM   #9
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And just to add, you also shouldn't say you'll never deal with "anyone" on this site again; It's not like everyone here is going to rip you off. I've traded several times here and nobody has ripped me off. It's actually a very good selling and trading community compared to other places.
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Unread 02-02-2012, 10:39 AM   #10
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I've had nothing but great experiences with people on this site. You just happened to catch a bad one.
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Unread 02-02-2012, 11:35 AM   #11
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I've had nothing but great experiences with people on this site. You just happened to catch a bad one.
This is true. I have nothing bad to say about the Classifieds community here. Hell, I just got done with one of the fastest and smoothest trades since I started dealing on here. Don't let a lemon ruin the entire experience for you, broseph.
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Unread 02-02-2012, 12:44 PM   #12
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Ibanez s7420 (black pearl)

looks like he sold your guitar shortly afterwards. sorry this happened dude, but it's the reason I'll never make a purchase of 200$+ with a non-retailer without picking it up in person. too much risk.
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Unread 02-02-2012, 02:00 PM   #13
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I bought a 2228 off a dude on this site, sent him 1k+ CAD pre-shipping and it arrived perfectly and on time, we're friends on Facebook now and all that jazz. Every transaction I've done has involved understanding, patient, workable people who have never scammed me once. Really ....ing sucks to hit a flake, but I wanna say like the others that I adore this community in general. I think you could buy off someone on here and get your faith in it back; just check iTraders and see if they have a history here!

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Unread 02-02-2012, 02:06 PM   #14
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I'm sorry for any of the negative things that anyone took towards themselves. I was pretty worked up last night. I just remembered all of my information for this site and was able to get on last night. I wont be leaving here, because a majority of the people on here have been great to me.
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Unread 02-02-2012, 04:04 PM   #16
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I'd say (for the mods): Ban him.this is clearly becoming his hunting ground,ban that guy.

just an idea,i dont want to be a mod-suggester haha
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Unread 02-02-2012, 08:49 PM   #17
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I work at Guitar Center man, and I know we don't have the BEST rep with anything, but I would never go to Best Buy for anything musical. Anyone who has ever walked in our door from there was totally filled with the wrong information. From prices, to wrong cables. For anyone reading this thread, if any of you are trying to hunt anything down what so ever, call and ask for me at North Olmsted | Guitar Center
Even if it's just for a simple question you need a fast answer to, just tell me you're from SS.org.
Perhaps you should give Kyle a ring and tell him you are trying to hunt down that guitar he never sent you? If he doesn't want to deal with you, I'm sure his boss would be interested to know that Kyle is publicly identifying himself as a Guitar Center employee whilst scamming people out of guitars.

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Unread 02-02-2012, 09:01 PM   #18
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Unread 02-02-2012, 11:50 PM   #19
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I had to rep Gunshow for that. The fact that Kyle put his information out there voluntarily was probably to gain sales, but it was his choice to do so.

I also like his actually having given permission to be contacted on this matter at work, as this is clearly about trying to hunt down an instrument he specifically was to send out. The irony is almost too much to bear.

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The brilliance behind unearthing this is to be commended.

And, best of all, it made me laugh.

If you don't care enough to research your own question, why should anyone else care more?

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Unread 02-02-2012, 11:57 PM   #20
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I try to chase down scammers that come through this site. I've talked to Kyle more than once and never saw any potential threat.. I've gone back and forth with him in an attempt to make a few deals, but never could get him to agree on any terms. That's not typical of a scam artist, so your story is a bit surprising.

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Unread 02-03-2012, 05:57 AM   #21
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Stuff like this gives us legitimate gear whores a bad name...lol...but seriously...ive had nothing but good experiences on this as well as other forums in regards to trading...this whole online world is smaller than you think...it seems like a good community as a majority..but his story sends a chill down my spine...you never want to get burned like that...i hope you can possibly resolve it.
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Unread 02-03-2012, 06:02 AM   #22
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I wasn't sure from your post, but did you ship your guitar to him? Or are you just out shipping fees?
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Unread 02-03-2012, 06:52 AM   #23
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I wasn't sure from your post, but did you ship your guitar to him? Or are you just out shipping fees?
I believe he sent his guitar plus money to ship his new one back as well as paying for setup work.
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And just to add, you also shouldn't say you'll never deal with "anyone" on this site again; It's not like everyone here is going to rip you off. I've traded several times here and nobody has ripped me off. It's actually a very good selling and trading community compared to other places.
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