Who of you dealt with NegaTiveXero? - Page 2

_fred_ · 12-23-2009, 10:49 AM

Drop WHAT attitude? I haven't received the amplifier, a guy didn't receive his POD and I got a PM from an another forumite who never got his item from NegativeXero quite some time ago either! What do you expect me to do.. play all cool? How many deals have to go wrong before you guys stop defending him?
This is bullshit man.

Doesn't anybody live close enough to him to check him out or something?

JJ Rodriguez · 12-23-2009, 11:09 AM

The 2 are completely different. I have no doubt that something ....ed up has happened to Nick, whether that means hospital, whatever. It's not the same as someone coming here for the sole purpose of scamming people which is clearly what happened with LAMetalshop.

I could be wrong, but if any other long time member here didn't ship something out and basically what happened with you and Nick, I'd have no doubt about them either, and I'd hope people thought as much of me if something ....ed up happened and I didn't ship something out and dropped off the face of the planet.

We're not saying it doesn't suck, or don't try to get your money back, just that Nick isn't a scam artist like this other ....er.

If someone came and called a buddy of yours a thief, you'd probably be kind of upset too.

DDDorian · 12-23-2009, 11:13 AM

I'm not saying you don't have a right to be pissed at not receiving what you paid for but dropping comments suggesting that people aren't interested or attacking people for giving a member with an established rep the benefit of the doubt isn't going to get you anywhere.

_fred_ · 12-23-2009, 11:15 AM

I'm not trying to get anywhere, I was hoping some local buddy of Nick would come up and help me solve this issue.

JJ Rodriguez · 12-23-2009, 11:17 AM

Solving the issue is getting somewhere

I don't blame you for being pissed dude, it definitely does suck you didn't get your shit.

HighGain510 · 12-23-2009, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _fred_

I'm not trying to get anywhere, I was hoping some local buddy of Nick would come up and help me solve this issue.

It sounds like you have resolved your side of the issue already, you filed the claim, he probably can't defend it (or maybe not even respond, in which case you win by default) if he didn't ship it as he won't have a tracking number to give them. It sounds to me by how big a deal this is to you that maybe you should think twice about brokering deals for other people.

Then you won't have to worry about being out all that money because someone didn't ship it to you.

Valserp · 12-23-2009, 02:09 PM

I have bought a Mesa Single Recto from Nick in September and it still hasn't arrived. No joke.
He HAS provided me with substantial evidence of the shipping(pictures of the customs form and the receipt).
The shipment got botched up twice. First time they damaged the packing in the post office. The second time - it was shipped to Belgium, instead of Bulgaria(according to tracking). It went back to the USA and has been reshipped to me on 6th of December. I hope to God that it's only being delayed because of the crazy holiday shipping.
Throughout the whole transaction, though, Nick's communication did leave a lot to be desired. He would never notify me of any updates, until I asked.(For instance, if he says "I'll go to the Post Office tomorrow and let you know what happened". 2 days after I PM him back "Well, did you go?". THEN he would actually update me with "Ya, I was there yesterday etc. etc." Lazyness, I guess.

So, what I'm trying to say with this huge block of text is that he seems honest(to me) but communication is definitely not his thing.

7 Strings of Hate · 12-23-2009, 02:27 PM

reading this, you guys got a point. long time member or not, this behavior is unacceptable.

if i was in the hospitial, i'd have someone conduct my biz for me. even in the bed, i'd ask my wife or family to log on, give them my info, and make sure my stuff got shipped ect.

JJ Rodriguez · 12-23-2009, 03:49 PM

If you're in a hospital bed, sometimes you aren't in any condition to communicate anything.

I'm not saying it's okay for him not to ship stuff, but calling him a scammer is a bit much.

_fred_ · 12-24-2009, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Rodriguez

If you're in a hospital bed, sometimes you aren't in any condition to communicate anything.

I'm not saying it's okay for him not to ship stuff, but calling him a scammer is a bit much.

I have already said it a couple of times, yet for some reason you're ignoring the fact that I did get thru to him a week ago and he sounded just fine, but wasn't able to talk, because he was at work.

You see.. it just doesn't compute.

JJ Rodriguez · 12-24-2009, 09:01 AM

It's ....ed up. I just don't get why the dude would buy/sell probably thousands of dollars worth of shit here, then decide to all of a sudden rip like 2-3 people off.

That doesn't compute with me

Any word from your PP dispute yet?

_fred_ · 12-24-2009, 09:11 AM

Yeah man, I hear you. You know, I log on to to the forum every morning expecting this guy to respond to the thread with something like: "sorry guys, I ....ed up, will resolve all issues asap", but it's just not happening..

dispute is started, I've got 20 days to wait for his response. I can escalate this to a claim now, but I don't know.. I'm still giving this guy a chance.

Hey Rew! Did you start a dispute, or have you actually escalated it to a claim already? Let me know.

Valserp · 12-24-2009, 02:14 PM

Good job to all you guys who neg-repped Fred for having a perfectly legit concern!

JJ Rodriguez · 12-24-2009, 02:35 PM

It wasn't the concern, was his attitude in spots that got him the neg rep. This is hardly the place to bitch about neg rep, and if you feel that way you should just positive rep him and leave it at that.

rew · 12-24-2009, 04:38 PM

Paypal claim filed. Can't wait to get the money back!

zimbloth · 12-24-2009, 04:47 PM

I've had many dealings with NegativeXero, both with trades and sales, and it's always been smooth sailing. For what that's worth. That doesn't mean someone can't one day choose another path, but I have to say I'm surprised to hear this. Very unfortunate.

I hope his health improves and you can get your money back (or the item you paid for).

I_infect · 12-24-2009, 05:45 PM

I had problems shipping to Russia before. Customs suck... UPS told me straight out that it takes 3-4 months to get through everything IF everything clears ok. In my case the guitar eventually got there A-OK but it was a horrible long experience, and I won't ship international again because of it. Too risky for both buyer and seller. I have no opinion on the forumite mentioned but based on my experience I give the benefit of the doubt.

_fred_ · 12-25-2009, 04:52 AM

I don't know what to find more amusing: your lack of elementary knowledge about shipping and your whining about it, or the fact that this is a thread about a forumite who hasn't communicated nor sent out the items after people sent their payments. NOT about shipping problems.

Complete logic fail.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rew

Paypal claim filed. Can't wait to get the money back!

Right. I'm escalating mine as well then. Good luck to you bro!

JJ Rodriguez · 12-25-2009, 07:29 AM

So Paypal protects you even outside of eBay? I never thought it really did much unless you were paying for eBay goods, or an online store checkout, something like that. Of course, you can always dispute the credit card charge.

MaxOfMetal · 12-25-2009, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Rodriguez

So Paypal protects you even outside of eBay? I never thought it really did much unless you were paying for eBay goods, or an online store checkout, something like that. Of course, you can always dispute the credit card charge.

That's the beauty of PayPal, they protect ALL transactions.

JesseTheMachine · 12-25-2009, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxOfMetal

That's the beauty of PayPal, they protect ALL transactions.

I dunno, I had a problem on here with a guy from California not shipping a Kahler bridge to me for months, and I went to Paypal to see what I could do and they said basically I was SOL.

Luckily for me the guy pulled through in the end, but I'm just saying they don't always protect your transactions I guess it depends what it is.

zeal0us · 12-25-2009, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JesseTheMachine

I had a problem on here with a guy from California not shipping a Kahler bridge to me for months...

PayPal covers buyers' asses upto 45 days after transactions.

I_infect · 12-25-2009, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _fred_

I don't know what to find more amusing: your lack of elementary knowledge about shipping and your whining about it, or the fact that this is a thread about a forumite who hasn't communicated nor sent out the items after people sent their payments. NOT about shipping problems.

Complete logic fail.

Right. I'm escalating mine as well then. Good luck to you bro!

Wow what's up with the attitude? I've done countless tranactions actually, and shipped all over the world, with Russia being the ONLY problem area, from both buyers and shipping problems, So I doubt my shipping knowledge is elementary. Russia is the reason I won't ship international AT ALL because of impatient buyers like this, like you

.
I was giving perspective from a seller's point of view, not a buyer who is complaining that their item didn't get there in a week, or is possibly abusing the Paypal system to get something for free when it's conveniently 'lost in the mail'. Problems with a buyer/seller is one thing; not receiving an item due to delays is another.

As far as the neg rep you left me, it looks like you got 3 in return. Treat people with some more respect around here please or GTFO. I'm sure the mods will agree; causing problems only gets you a free ride back to Harmony Central.

MaxOfMetal · 12-25-2009, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JesseTheMachine

I dunno, I had a problem on here with a guy from California not shipping a Kahler bridge to me for months, and I went to Paypal to see what I could do and they said basically I was SOL.

Luckily for me the guy pulled through in the end, but I'm just saying they don't always protect your transactions I guess it depends what it is.

Every transaction is different, and in some cases if you don't file a claim promptly, or you do so improperly (which to them looks like abuse of the system) then you'll sometimes be SOL. As in they won't be able to help you.

As helpful and secure PayPal is, it shouldn't be used a crutch to fall back on when doing shady deals. It's not 100% full proof. Look at it as a little added insurance and paper trail. If you want 100% secure, there are a few online Escrow services that offer even more protection.

robotsatemygma · 12-25-2009, 07:33 PM

I dunno... I'm very hesitant about any transaction via here or ebay. The way I look at it is this... it's a gamble.

Your hoping the person on the other end is honest. They are hoping you're honest yourself. Don't gamble money you're not comfortable with losing. Simple as that.

Fred does have some fuel on his end... the seller is being shady. A simple here's the tracking number pm, call, email, whatever... done. He's withheld his end of the bargain and it's in the hands of a shipping company. Him simply withholding that information is fishy, and EXACTLY WHY I will never do a high end purchase direct with a civilian.

But Fred also needs to understand that shipping internationally can take awhile. Members have said it... it can take MONTHS! Shitty because his protection time frame will be null by then.

Like I said, it's a gamble. Don't bite off more then you can chew.

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12-23-2009, 11:13 AM	#28
DDDorian Mantis Toboggan, M.D • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Middle of nowhere, Australia Posts: 4,295 Thanked: 225 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I'm not saying you don't have a right to be pissed at not receiving what you paid for but dropping comments suggesting that people aren't interested or attacking people for giving a member with an established rep the benefit of the doubt isn't going to get you anywhere. ss.org on Twitter ss.org on Facebook Yeah, a lot of people are bugging their babies these days... I guess babies can't be trusted.

12-24-2009, 09:11 AM	#37
_fred_ Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: St. Petersburg, Russia Posts: 63 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Yeah man, I hear you. You know, I log on to to the forum every morning expecting this guy to respond to the thread with something like: "sorry guys, I ....ed up, will resolve all issues asap", but it's just not happening.. dispute is started, I've got 20 days to wait for his response. I can escalate this to a claim now, but I don't know.. I'm still giving this guy a chance. Hey Rew! Did you start a dispute, or have you actually escalated it to a claim already? Let me know. Last edited by _fred_; 12-24-2009 at 09:13 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

12-24-2009, 04:47 PM	#41
zimbloth Nick // Axe Palace Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 16,668 Thanked: 179 Feedback Score: 47 reviews	I've had many dealings with NegativeXero, both with trades and sales, and it's always been smooth sailing. For what that's worth. That doesn't mean someone can't one day choose another path, but I have to say I'm surprised to hear this. Very unfortunate. I hope his health improves and you can get your money back (or the item you paid for). The Axe Palace <-- Dealer for: Ibanez, BKP, DiMarzio, ENGL, Diezel, Orange, Fryette, ESP, Caparison, PRS, Vigier, Dean , Parker, Flaxwood, G&L, Schecter USA and many more. NEW WEBSITE IS NOW LIVE: www.axepalace.com

12-24-2009, 05:45 PM	#42
I_infect SS.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PA USA Posts: 1,350 Thanked: 18 Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I had problems shipping to Russia before. Customs suck... UPS told me straight out that it takes 3-4 months to get through everything IF everything clears ok. In my case the guitar eventually got there A-OK but it was a horrible long experience, and I won't ship international again because of it. Too risky for both buyer and seller. I have no opinion on the forumite mentioned but based on my experience I give the benefit of the doubt. Extended Scale Destroyer of Worlds Still searching for the perfect cab...

12-23-2009, 10:49 AM	#26
_fred_ Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: St. Petersburg, Russia Posts: 63 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Drop WHAT attitude? I haven't received the amplifier, a guy didn't receive his POD and I got a PM from an another forumite who never got his item from NegativeXero quite some time ago either! What do you expect me to do.. play all cool? How many deals have to go wrong before you guys stop defending him? This is bullshit man. Doesn't anybody live close enough to him to check him out or something?

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12-23-2009, 11:09 AM	#27
JJ Rodriguez Pantysniffing zombie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 11,705 Thanked: 82 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	The 2 are completely different. I have no doubt that something ....ed up has happened to Nick, whether that means hospital, whatever. It's not the same as someone coming here for the sole purpose of scamming people which is clearly what happened with LAMetalshop. I could be wrong, but if any other long time member here didn't ship something out and basically what happened with you and Nick, I'd have no doubt about them either, and I'd hope people thought as much of me if something ....ed up happened and I didn't ship something out and dropped off the face of the planet. We're not saying it doesn't suck, or don't try to get your money back, just that Nick isn't a scam artist like this other ....er. If someone came and called a buddy of yours a thief, you'd probably be kind of upset too.

12-23-2009, 11:15 AM	#29
_fred_ Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: St. Petersburg, Russia Posts: 63 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I'm not trying to get anywhere, I was hoping some local buddy of Nick would come up and help me solve this issue.

12-23-2009, 11:17 AM	#30
JJ Rodriguez Pantysniffing zombie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 11,705 Thanked: 82 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	Solving the issue is getting somewhere I don't blame you for being pissed dude, it definitely does suck you didn't get your shit.

12-23-2009, 02:09 PM	#32
Valserp Only plays 1 string Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 749 Thanked: 24 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I have bought a Mesa Single Recto from Nick in September and it still hasn't arrived. No joke. He HAS provided me with substantial evidence of the shipping(pictures of the customs form and the receipt). The shipment got botched up twice. First time they damaged the packing in the post office. The second time - it was shipped to Belgium, instead of Bulgaria(according to tracking). It went back to the USA and has been reshipped to me on 6th of December. I hope to God that it's only being delayed because of the crazy holiday shipping. Throughout the whole transaction, though, Nick's communication did leave a lot to be desired. He would never notify me of any updates, until I asked.(For instance, if he says "I'll go to the Post Office tomorrow and let you know what happened". 2 days after I PM him back "Well, did you go?". THEN he would actually update me with "Ya, I was there yesterday etc. etc." Lazyness, I guess. So, what I'm trying to say with this huge block of text is that he seems honest(to me) but communication is definitely not his thing.

12-23-2009, 02:27 PM	#33
7 Strings of Hate Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: St.Louis USA Posts: 6,768 Thanked: 90 Feedback Score: 23 reviews	reading this, you guys got a point. long time member or not, this behavior is unacceptable. if i was in the hospitial, i'd have someone conduct my biz for me. even in the bed, i'd ask my wife or family to log on, give them my info, and make sure my stuff got shipped ect.

12-23-2009, 03:49 PM	#34
JJ Rodriguez Pantysniffing zombie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 11,705 Thanked: 82 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	If you're in a hospital bed, sometimes you aren't in any condition to communicate anything. I'm not saying it's okay for him not to ship stuff, but calling him a scammer is a bit much.

12-24-2009, 09:01 AM	#36
JJ Rodriguez Pantysniffing zombie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 11,705 Thanked: 82 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	It's ....ed up. I just don't get why the dude would buy/sell probably thousands of dollars worth of shit here, then decide to all of a sudden rip like 2-3 people off. That doesn't compute with me Any word from your PP dispute yet?

12-24-2009, 02:14 PM	#38
Valserp Only plays 1 string Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 749 Thanked: 24 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Good job to all you guys who neg-repped Fred for having a perfectly legit concern!

12-24-2009, 02:35 PM	#39
JJ Rodriguez Pantysniffing zombie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 11,705 Thanked: 82 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	It wasn't the concern, was his attitude in spots that got him the neg rep. This is hardly the place to bitch about neg rep, and if you feel that way you should just positive rep him and leave it at that.

12-24-2009, 04:38 PM	#40
rew ss.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Biddeford, ME Posts: 58 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Paypal claim filed. Can't wait to get the money back!

12-25-2009, 07:29 AM	#44
JJ Rodriguez Pantysniffing zombie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 11,705 Thanked: 82 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	So Paypal protects you even outside of eBay? I never thought it really did much unless you were paying for eBay goods, or an online store checkout, something like that. Of course, you can always dispute the credit card charge.

12-25-2009, 07:33 PM	#50
robotsatemygma myspace.com/pygar1 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 731 Thanked: 15 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I dunno... I'm very hesitant about any transaction via here or ebay. The way I look at it is this... it's a gamble. Your hoping the person on the other end is honest. They are hoping you're honest yourself. Don't gamble money you're not comfortable with losing. Simple as that. Fred does have some fuel on his end... the seller is being shady. A simple here's the tracking number pm, call, email, whatever... done. He's withheld his end of the bargain and it's in the hands of a shipping company. Him simply withholding that information is fishy, and EXACTLY WHY I will never do a high end purchase direct with a civilian. But Fred also needs to understand that shipping internationally can take awhile. Members have said it... it can take MONTHS! Shitty because his protection time frame will be null by then. Like I said, it's a gamble. Don't bite off more then you can chew.

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