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View Poll Results: What amp would you buy?
V-AMPIRE POWER PACK LX1200H/BG412H 8 25.81%
MARSHALL MG100DFX/250DFX 5 16.13%
Spider II 112 Combo/212 Combo 18 58.06%
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Old 05-14-2006, 12:37 AM   #1
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Decide For Me

Im so crap at making up my mind... and I know you guys LOVE making choices soooo heres your choices. What amp out of these would you buy, I know they're probably all crap but there the only amps I can seem to find that will do what I want them to do in my price range. I desperatly need an amp so I can jam with freinds and start a band, so it mainly just has to be loud enough to play in a band situation.
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Old 05-14-2006, 12:38 AM   #2
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out of what?

you didn't give any choices.
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Old 05-14-2006, 12:40 AM   #3
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It must have posted before I finished the poll sorry
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Old 05-14-2006, 12:41 AM   #4
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eesh, out of those, the spider. your pricerange is then $400?
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Old 05-14-2006, 12:44 AM   #5
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Yes unfortuanatly... there all about 1000dollarsAU. I wish I had a bigger budget but my other 1400 dollars is buying me a schecter c-7 Blackjack. I hate being on a budget
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Old 05-14-2006, 12:52 AM   #6
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I'd say save up and buy something a LITTLE better. I mean the SpiderII head/cab is like $700 so probably around $1400 aus, but it'll have a lot more power and a noticeably better sound because of the larger power section and sealed 4x12.

However, I'd look into some used stuff in your country. I don't know what used gear goes for over there, but you can find some sweet deals. What type of music do you play mostly
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Old 05-14-2006, 12:55 AM   #7
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Mostly metal... like Pantera... Nevermore... Meshuggah... Im starting a band that plays some serious crunchy Fear Factory style music. Im NOT new to guitar and I can tell good tone from bad tone, unfortunatly for me. I just rarely get enough money to upgrade and this is actually probably my first major upgrade, to a new guitar and amp.

Hahah after you said that I decided to go on ebay to look for some line-6's, theres a spider-2 head and cab on there going really cheap ATM and its pretty local I might even be able to pick it up. Hmmm should I trust a used amp and ebay?

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Old 05-14-2006, 12:59 AM   #8
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hmm.....

I'd say check ebay and locally for a used 5150/5150II or if you can find a deal on a newer 6505. Frankly that will slay the pants off of that Spider II for metal/hardcore. The peavey stuff pretty much lasts forever, too. They're very reliable.

or see if you can snag a used HD147. That's a BIG upgrade from the Spider while still giving you the versatility/tons of options that comes with owning a line 6.
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:01 AM   #9
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Items like that rarely go up on ebay and are usually still pretty expencivve, i was lucky to find that spider and its pretty tempting and I might get it pretty cheap. How much would you expect to pay for a used spider 2 amp and head?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LINE-6-SPIDER...QQcmdZViewItem

heres the link BTW
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:02 AM   #10
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If that's the sound you're going for, I'd say definately don't get the Marshall. I don't know about down there, but up here, you can get a Crate amp pretty cheap that will have a decent crunch tone that cuts through the mix well for pretty cheap. Problem I have with Crate is the ice-pick-in-the-ear highs.

Out of what you listed, I'd lean towards the line six.
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:04 AM   #11
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What do you think about the used Spider 2 Head and Cabinet?
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:08 AM   #12
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Quote:
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What do you think about the used Spider 2 Head and Cabinet?
I, myslef, didn't care much for the Spider II head, but I will say that it had better tone than the combo. But then, I've never found a cheap modeling amp I liked. In fact, I'm not much for modeling amps at all.

The insane setting on the Spider II head is good for rhythms.
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:12 AM   #13
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Problem I have with Crate is the ice-pick-in-the-ear highs.
I pretty much alleviated that problem. It's like the Krank Revolution, the Presence control REALLY controls those highs. On my bv120hb, I have the presence at like 1 or 1.5


A decent SS or even tube crate head will def do the trick.
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:17 AM   #14
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That spider head and cab is really tempting but... used on ebay. I'm not sure.
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:20 AM   #15
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That spider head and cab is really tempting but... used on ebay. I'm not sure.
Have you played a Spider II?

Take your time a little. Don't do like I did with my first amp and end up regretting your decision.

I bought a Laney secondhand. Laneys are nice amps, but I bought one that had been used by a bass player for years and had a bunch of pieces coming loose inside. When I got it home, I noticed duct tape holding it together. I should have took it back, but instead I took it to practice, decided it sucked, then returned it.
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:23 AM   #16
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try to actually play the amp you're going to buy. or at least the same model. That way there are as few surprises as possible.
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:26 AM   #17
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Ive played a Spider II combo but not the head and cabinet... I assume the head and cabinet sounds better?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LINE-6-SPIDER...QQcmdZViewItem

it doesnt seem to be held together by duct tape hahah.
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:28 AM   #18
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the head and cab def. does sound better, IMO. This amp is really for more of the beginner, looking for tones that you like and in need of some decent sounds cheap.


if that's you, get it. For the most part, a head and cab version of an amp will ALWAYS sound better than the combo version.
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:32 AM   #19
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I think i'll bid on it... I just hope its in good condition and it will last cause I can't afford for it to Fk up on me. One more question how much would you expect to pay for it used... and would it go nicely with a c-7 blackjack
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since it's like $700 new for the head and cab, I wouldn't pay more than $550 for one used (us $)

that's like....$1100 au?

EDIT: yeah, i wouldn't go more than $600 for the head and cab used. The 75w version of the head is like only $275 new, but I'd get the 150w version.





decent deal on the head there,
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:42 AM   #21
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God I have to stop reading reviews, everytime I read a bad review it completely puts me off... The spider 2 stack should sound better than the amps In the poll yeah?
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:44 AM   #22
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def.
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:49 AM   #23
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So aslong as I only pay as much for the spider as I would for one of those amps I should be good .... Goddmanit I hate buying stuff with so little money.
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:56 AM   #24
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Prices don't necessarily transfer between our currencies very well. Most stuff cost a lot more here than it does in the US.
You've got about a grand available. Hmmmm.

check out www.bmusic.com.au

Never tried one, but there's a Hughes & Kettner Warp 7 combo for about $1k, even some Laney half stack packages.

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Old 05-14-2006, 02:30 AM   #25
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Hmmm i was checking this out - http://www.bmusic.com.au/prod3898.htm -
any thoughts?
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