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Old 04-21-2009, 01:58 PM   #1
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Question What do you think of metal bands with 2 singers?

Not like a frontman and a guitarist that sings but 2 full blown frontmen?

Me and my bf finally got a band going and our singer that we have now if really good at singing and high screams, but has no lows what-so-ever. Our music really calls for it. We were thinking of trying to find another guy that has great lows and mids. If it's done right do you think it will work? We're suppose to talk about it today at practice. We haven't brought it up to our current singer yet. I would think it would make it more diverse or more complicated depending on how it's done.

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Old 04-21-2009, 02:01 PM   #2
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Well, Despised Icon, Into Eternity, Sikth, and Origin do it, and those are 4 of my fav bands. I say go for it, it adds a lot of layering and versatility to the sound.
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:03 PM   #3
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Cool, thanks for the reply. The hard part is finding someone...lol.
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:13 PM   #4
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it all depends on what you guys like, not other people. i personally have never heard a band i liked with two vocalists. bands like that usually try to do waaaayyy too much. if your band calls for lows and mids, why dont you just get that style of vocalist and leave it at that. plus, you gotta worry about the two butting heads.
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:16 PM   #5
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I think it would definitely work. It would open up new doors for vocal harmonies and layering. There are plenty of bands that do it, just make sure both vocalists don't end up sounding the same like Fellsilent, I still like that band but from what I have read a lot of people don't like either of their vocalists.
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:21 PM   #6
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it all depends on what you guys like, not other people. i personally have never heard a band i liked with two vocalists. bands like that usually try to do waaaayyy too much. if your band calls for lows and mids, why dont you just get that style of vocalist and leave it at that. plus, you gotta worry about the two butting heads.
That's what I'm worried about. I don't want them to over complicate things or butt heads. We haven't talked to him yet either so he may not be into it at all so we'd have to say "see ya."

I do think if it's done right it would be awesome. But, like mentioned it could be too much... I'm mixed.
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:27 PM   #8
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Go for it i say, theres plenty of bands who have 2 vocalists, as well as plenty who experiment with more then 1 vocalist too. As a7stringkilla said though, be wary of overcomplicating things, or on the other side of the scale, dumbing them down to the extent where a second vocalist would be unnecessary.
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:32 PM   #9
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I think SikTh!
i think ....!!!! song was great till the chorus hit, or didnt. if you want your music to go from heavy as hell to smooth jazz and back then yeah, do that. i personally like songs that stay within themselves and keep the same mood. lets put it this way. if heavy .... pumps you up and your sparring or something while that song is on, you might get yourself knocked out when the chorus plays. see what im getting at.....sorta?
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I like dual vocal melodies myself
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:37 PM   #11
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i think ....!!!! song was great till the chorus hit, or didnt. if you want your music to go from heavy as hell to smooth jazz and back then yeah, do that. i personally like songs that stay within themselves and keep the same mood. lets put it this way. if heavy .... pumps you up and your sparring or something while that song is on, you might get yourself knocked out when the chorus plays. see what im getting at.....sorta?
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:40 PM   #12
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even though I like Sikth, and really love mercenary, if you need two singers... you got two singers that are not good enough IMHO. a decent singer can do it all on his own...
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:45 PM   #13
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i think ....!!!! song was great till the chorus hit, or didnt. if you want your music to go from heavy as hell to smooth jazz and back then yeah, do that. i personally like songs that stay within themselves and keep the same mood. lets put it this way. if heavy .... pumps you up and your sparring or something while that song is on, you might get yourself knocked out when the chorus plays. see what im getting at.....sorta?
That's called variation, and I doubt that a lot of the new users here in the forum can get it

This forum turned out on a breakdown metal/deathcorish discussion

Maybe you can get this: If you neg rep me, I'm going to rip your ....ing face!

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if you need two singers... you got two singers that are not good enough IMHO. a decent singer can do it all on his own...
True. That's the whole reason we are doing it. The singer we have now doesn't have the range we need. (metal) Vocalists are hard to come by here. I would be happy with 2 decent singers.
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Old 04-21-2009, 03:02 PM   #15
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I love seeing metal bands with 2 vocalists, doeant really matter how heavy or melodic the band is, every time Ive seen a metal band with 2 frontmen it totally works.

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I find the idea killer!

Switchback is currently recording their new album and they have 2 singers now!

Its going to be epic ....ing brutal win!
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i think ....!!!! song was great till the chorus hit, or didnt. if you want your music to go from heavy as hell to smooth jazz and back then yeah, do that. i personally like songs that stay within themselves and keep the same mood. lets put it this way. if heavy .... pumps you up and your sparring or something while that song is on, you might get yourself knocked out when the chorus plays. see what im getting at.....sorta?
I wouldn't call the chorus of that song 'smooth jazz' by any measure. It retains the attack of the rest of the song, highlighted by the blasts on down-tuned guitars, then plunges back into the mechanical sonic frenzy that is (was ) Sikth.

If you wanna trade blows, I couldn't listen to unvaried stuff for very long, after a few tracks I'd get bored, so pumping out a chorus which is very similar to the song would be boring.
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You're not cool enough for prog
try to keep personal comments like this to yourself or word it in such a way to not be insulting to other members
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calm down man geez

The band I think pulls off 2 actual singers the best is Showbread, not really sure how that style would work in a metal band. Most bands I've seen do 2 vocals have a guy scream and a guy do cleans but it could be cool with a screamer and a growler...just make sure they know their place and don't think one is the main singer you know.

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I love seeing metal bands with 2 vocalists, doeant really matter how heavy or melodic the band is, every time Ive seen a metal band with 2 frontmen it totally works.

Sweet.

We we're thinking about when we play live too. It doesn't hurt to have one more guy getting the crowd going.




I think we are definitely going to talk to him about it. If it's a yes, then we'll go for it. No, then we're replacing him. At least we're giving him a chance.
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is this cool enough for you?
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That's called variation, and I doubt that a lot of the new users here in the forum can get it

This forum turned out on a breakdown metal/deathcorish discussion

Maybe you can get this: If you neg rep me, I'm going to rip your ....ing face!
ripping my face isnt as easy as you might think. so yeah, i neg repped you n ill be waiting i guess.

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Old 04-21-2009, 03:55 PM   #21
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Well, Despised Icon, Into Eternity, Sikth, and Origin do it, and those are 4 of my fav bands. I say go for it, it adds a lot of layering and versatility to the sound.
Into Eternity and Origin only have one frontman. Which isn't what OP was talking about.

Personally, i think its pointless as hell in a metal context.
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Well, Despised Icon, Into Eternity, Sikth, and Origin do it, and those are 4 of my fav bands. I say go for it, it adds a lot of layering and versatility to the sound.
Not sure about the others but Origin doesn't have two frontmen; it has James Lee as a singer and Ryan/Turner/Flores doing backup.

When I saw The Ocean live they had two singers. Seemed to work fine. Although their goddamn blinding light show kind of detracted from the performance as a whole (spent 75% of the show with my eyes closed )
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A Farewell To Legs has 2 singers, it sounds great. The bassist sings and the drummer growls.
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Old 04-21-2009, 04:26 PM   #24
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the best advice i can give you is to do what comes out of you naturally. if you gotta think to hard about that or complicate it somehow then youre going away from who you really are as a guitar player. people can tell when youre faking the funk so just play. if its really in you then youll do well n i hope it goes well for you.
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Old 04-21-2009, 04:36 PM   #25
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2 singers can be done - and done well - but first of all, you have to have two singers that get along and can work together. After that, everything can fall into place pretty easily. Granted, as has been said, it'll be more effective on recordings if the two voices either sound different, or are doing different things. Live, it won't matter, because there's the visual aspect which will make up the difference.

You didn't mention the possibility of adding a female singer; she'd be unlikely to add low pitched vocals, but it would definitely give you a variety. Interlock did that, and did it well.

Let us know what you end up deciding to do!
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