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Old 09-11-2008, 07:07 PM   #1
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Death Magnetic - Wave Form Analysis

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SERIOUSLY?!
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Cyanide just kicked Nero WaveEditors ass!
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Old 09-11-2008, 07:14 PM   #4
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... Its not a good thing...

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That's just what I was thinking. It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of and I start losing respect for artists that allow that .... to happen.
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Old 09-11-2008, 07:26 PM   #6
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You have to realise that Metallica grew up as an 80s thrash band, so when it comes to modern digital recording they're probably hearing all the benefits and none of the drawbacks. Just because they lucked out on the black album doesn't mean they actually know what a good, modern production should sound like.
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Old 09-11-2008, 07:30 PM   #7
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Yeah I know all about the loudness war, but in reality this doesnt sound too bad. That .... spoiled Rush's "Vapour trails" album though, the songs were still top notch I must admit.
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Wow. People always joke about solid bars, but hot damn... Did they just throw the compressors out the window and replace them with limiters set to brickwall at 0dB or what?

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Old 09-11-2008, 10:50 PM   #10
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I have no clue what you guys are talking about, and its making me feel really really dumb.
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Holy .... that is crazy
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I have no clue what you guys are talking about, and its making me feel really really dumb.
There are no dynamics. Music is supposed to flow and vary in volume and dynamics. The second picture shows a waveform that is boosted and compressed so heavily that the volume is kept almost entirely consistent at max volume. Even that first waveform is ridiculously loud and compressed, but the "solid bar" waveform is something that is often joked about but rarely actually seen.

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This is what I've been going on about for the longest time, since I first heard this stuff!

I have a really good listening environment at my house, both in terms of monitors and 'phones. And this album was both A) the LOUDEST, and B) the most uber-distortion-compressed album I've ever heard. Easily. Lars' snare just goes BZZZZZTWACKZZZT! Again and again.

It's god-awful. You're saying retail is worse?

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They need to hook up with Flemming Rasmussen again, his production was awesome.
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I have a feeling that we will look back at this album as the high water mark of the Loudness Wars. I don't think anyone ever thought they would see a solid bar.

Ever.

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This album is almost twice as loud (relatively) as 'Sacrament', from LoG. Itself a new, very compressed album. But it sounds like friggin' the London Philharmonic in comparison! At least from what I've heard.

And I even heard a high quality rip. (320kbps)

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Holy mother of god. Please tell me that this isn't true.
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You guys needed to open this thing up in a waveform editor to figure out it was compressed out to ....? First time I heard the song, it was obvious, even through the fact that radio stations max/flat-line broadcast stuff. The instruments (drums, in particular) have that "held at the ceiling" sound all over it.
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God, that's just awful.
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I have a feeling that we will look back at this album as the high water mark of the Loudness Wars.
Makes me want to go listen to "When the Levee Breaks" for all sorts of reasons.
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This is just unbelievable.

One of the most successful and influential bands ever, and they release an album with broken production. This is inexcusable.

Don't tell me what I can't do.
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I already didn't plan to buy this album... this really put the nail in the coffin.
I have literally never seen a solid bar wave form in my life.... it's almost sickening really
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that waveform is completely ridiculous. Pretty much makes buying a high end audio system pointless when its already like that.
Not that I was going to buy it anyway but that's just obscene!
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and they release an lbum with broken production
...again.
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