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Old 08-20-2013, 03:01 AM   #1
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Meshuggah Ibanez LACS RG8 / M8M / M80M tonal comparison w/ Fortin Satan

During my latest visit to Meshuggah's studio, we decided to make a comparison vid showing the basic tonal differences between their trusty workhorse LACS RG8, the M8M signature, and the prototype of the upcoming new M80M signature model. The results are surprisingly similar, which demonstrates that despite the slightly different woods and bolt-neck construction involved with the new, lower priced M80M, the results were very consistent, no matter what settings we tried. It really represents a truly solid, workhorse Mesh sig using the same basic style, scale and Lundgren M8 pickup at an affordable price ratio. Good move Ibanez!

These guitars were tested through Mike Fortin's amazing and appropriately-named Satan head into an older JCM800 cab, which was dialed-in personally by Fredrik Thordendal just before the shoot to approximate their signature tone as close as possible.

I don't like to take myself too seriously, so we left in some goofing around and an unintended visit from my dog Niko too Please bear in mind the point was to showcase the tonal consistency between the 3 guitars and particularly the new M80M - not my lame playing, so easy on me guys. I'm a professional tech, not a player

Meshuggah Ibanez LACS RG8 / M8M / M80M tonal comparison w/ Fortin Satan - YouTube
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Old 08-20-2013, 03:26 AM   #2
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Sounds like you're dialing in some really early Meshuggah tones. Sounds like CC, DEI, and Chaosphere.
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Old 08-20-2013, 03:35 AM   #3
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Awesome video, thanks a lot! Now I'm GAS-ing even more for the M80M..

And a special fanboy thanks for the amp settings at the end of the video ;-)
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Old 08-20-2013, 03:37 AM   #4
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Ahh how I love it when the truth is told. Wonderful stuff. Thanks for taking the time to piece this demo together.
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Old 08-20-2013, 04:01 AM   #5
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Same brand and gauge strings on all of them? About the same wear on the strings on all of them? They definitely sounded different. Their personal guitar sounded the best to me: very smooth, but extremely tight, djdjdjenty and articulate. The others had noticeably more top end.

And that IS a sick amp.
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Old 08-20-2013, 04:19 AM   #6
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Awesome vid! Thanks for sharing this. The M80M sounds brighter, but still good.
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Old 08-20-2013, 04:38 AM   #7
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I honestly can't tell much of a difference at all. There seemed to be a little more low midsyness to the LACS, but then again it might've been just that one chord too. The LACS also seemed to be a tiny bit louder in the acoustic snap of the strings. But practically speaking there's no discernable difference as far as I can tell from this clip. Very impressive, and my GAS just got harder.

Thanks for making this, Allen!

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Old 08-20-2013, 04:44 AM   #8
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The M80M will be mine. Moehahahahahhaa!
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Old 08-20-2013, 05:42 AM   #9
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Awesome. I will own that guitar now.
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Old 08-20-2013, 05:53 AM   #10
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Holy .... the neck on the LACS is ....ing wonderful.

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Old 08-20-2013, 06:13 AM   #11
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If they used the plastic bobbin M8, I hope he'll be making the plastic bobbin humbuckers without it being too expensive.

Also I love your dog.

I want every single guitar. And a few more.

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Old 08-20-2013, 06:34 AM   #12
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This gets me so wet knowing that the M80M is just a matter of days away from my doorstep. Oo yes.
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Old 08-20-2013, 06:40 AM   #13
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A few things came out of that..

Those guitars all sounded fantastic.
That amp sounded unbelievable.
That laugh towards the end was pure joy.

Great demo.

EDIT: Is the Fortin Satan exactly the same as the Randall or am I being stupid? I'm being off-topic if nothing else, sozzles.
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Old 08-20-2013, 06:43 AM   #14
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Out of the three I actually preferred the m80 to be honest. Like he said it sounded a bit snappier, which I prefer.

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I want the amp. Randall or Fortin, don't care as long as it says Satan on it.
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:21 AM   #16
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Great demo! Thanks for sharing!!


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Old 08-20-2013, 07:26 AM   #17
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To me the amp is the winner here. Nice guitars, but Ola's amp gives me GAS.
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:57 AM   #18
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Don't think that's Ola's amp. His has blue lights.
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All the guitars sound amazing, of course, but just as a personal thing, I prefer the M80M. So much chug and attack in the sound of that thing! It's a pretty close race between the three, but in the end, the M80M is giving me some damn-near-unbearable GAS. It's pretty much exactly what I want out of an 8'er, tone-wise. It's also good to know we're getting a production model of that Satan amp in the near future, I haven't got much experience with Randall amps, but if it sounds anything like the Fortin, methinks I'm gonna have to pick one up, along with the M80M. Thanks for making that video, as it was very informative, and I got to drool over 3 awesome guitars and an amp that sounds brutal as fuck!
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During my latest visit to Meshuggah's studio, we decided to make a comparison vid showing the basic tonal differences between their trusty workhorse LACS RG8, the M8M signature, and the prototype of the upcoming new M80M signature model. The results are surprisingly similar, which demonstrates that despite the slightly different woods and bolt-neck construction involved with the new, lower priced M80M, the results were very consistent, no matter what settings we tried. It really represents a truly solid, workhorse Mesh sig using the same basic style, scale and Lundgren M8 pickup at an affordable price ratio. Good move Ibanez!

These guitars were tested through Mike Fortin's amazing and appropriately-named Satan head into an older JCM800 cab, which was dialed-in personally by Fredrik Thordendal just before the shoot to approximate their signature tone as close as possible.

I don't like to take myself too seriously, so we left in some goofing around and an unintended visit from my dog Niko too Please bear in mind the point was to showcase the tonal consistency between the 3 guitars and particularly the new M80M - not my lame playing, so easy on me guys. I'm a professional tech, not a player

Meshuggah Ibanez LACS RG8 / M8M / M80M tonal comparison w/ Fortin Satan - YouTube
Great comparison vid, sweet axes and I actually like your riffs a lot, they sound like thrash metal meets djent, it's really cool actually hehe
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Great comparison vid, sweet axes and I actually like your riffs a lot, they sound like old school Meshuggah, it's really cool actually hehe
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:32 AM   #22
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Nice video bro.
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Do we have any idea when that Randall Satan is finally coming out??
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gotta love Canadians

we have great Techs and Great amp builders

i really would love to get my hands on Mike's Satan amp for a day of testing


side note, hows Coming back to Toronto going to affect the tech thing with meshuggah?

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Makes the anticipation for this guitar that much better. Thanks
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