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Old 10-17-2011, 12:34 AM   #1
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NGD! Not quite an average 7 string.

Well, as promised a week ago, my 3rd build is finished!

I know you didn't follow the build, but here it is:
http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/lut...make-stop.html

SPECS!

# of strings: 7... 7 Nylon strings
Scale length: Multiscale, 636mm-666mm, which is close (ish) to 25"-26.25
neck: 7 piece flamed maple/walnut neckthrough... no trussrod, 15°Headstock angle
Body wood: mahogany wings
Top wood: Flamed maple
Fingerboard: Pau ferro
FB radius: 20"
# of frets: 23... because I felt like 23 + zero fret
Bridge: Rosewood bridge with graphtech ghost saddles
electronics: graphtech acoustiphonic preamp, 1 volume.
Binding: Natural binding
nut: honeybadger claw
Hella chambered


I apologize for the pics, they are horrible, but I finished it quite late, and there is no decent lightning. I'll upload better ones tomorrow (late today actually since it's monday already)

PICS!








First of all, the guitar isn't exactly finished. I still need to do some things, but I put it all together for testing. I still need to make a control cavity cover, and a nut, as well as some cosmetic things. The strings are being kept in place just by the correct placement of the tuners, which make the strings keep straight after the nut.

I have a hard time explaining this guitar to friends who came by and saw it being built. "Yeah, it's a 7 string solid body but chambered fan fretted nylon string guitar". Do I care that it's hard to explain? Nope, soon as I plugged it in I knew all the effort had payed off.

The good:
1.- The fanned frets! I'm sold, multiscale instruments is where it's at. It's som comfortable to play that I'm not making or buying a 25.5" (I'm also loving the 27.5" atm) scale axe ever again, unless it's something extremely special.

2.- The idea works! This came to be as an excercise and an experiment. I mean, I could have just built a normal guitar, but NOOOO. I had to build a chambered, trussrodless neckthrough for nylon strings, using saddles and tuners made for steel strings.

3.- Graphtech saddles and preamp. They sound perfect. I need to add a splash of reverb, but other than that, no EQ, or effects are needed. They ley through the actual sound of the guitar very well. They even overdrive nicely. It sounds very very crisp, but never harsh, and the high strings have a very pleasant sweetness to them, which I imagine is partly due to the smaller scale.
4.- The neck! It's as thick as possible, and I absolutely love it. 25.5mm at the first fret and 26mm at the 12th, with a very flat back.

The bad:

One of the ghost saddles (low E) isn't working. Seems like I will need a replacement.

The flamed maple I bought for the top... Holy crap did it cause me trouble. The figure is very inconsistent, and it has some strange staining. It was also cut by monkeys, and was warped when I received it... Never buying from that guy again.

And that's about it. I'm just getting to know this guitar, but I already know it's going to be hard putting it down for quite a while. It's just ridiculosly fun to mess with.

Is this... guitar?
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Old 10-17-2011, 01:02 AM   #2
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Holy ...., dude. That's fantastic, and... dare I say... marketable?

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Old 10-17-2011, 01:46 AM   #3
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I think the stain looks great
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Old 10-17-2011, 03:13 AM   #4
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That is a crazy mixture! the finish is beautiful in the right light, Good work

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Old 10-17-2011, 03:19 AM   #5
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Mass produce it NAO cause I want one

Thats very original, i'd never get rid of it. It looks beautiful. How does it sound though?
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Old 10-17-2011, 03:23 AM   #6
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Scherzo you really need to get these things on the market, you have some real skill, I have seen the other 2 guitars you made and they are fantastic, I am guessing this one is like a solidish bodied, nylon stringed, electro acoustic? if that makes sense.


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Old 10-17-2011, 04:23 AM   #7
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Actually, that top is magnificent!!
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Old 10-17-2011, 08:24 AM   #8
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Holy ...., dude. That's fantastic, and... dare I say... marketable?
Thanks man. Don't know if I'm up for selling these. I build stuff for fun, and I think the design needs a bit of tweeking still. I might experiment with other construction methods and shapes for this concept though.

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I think the stain looks great
Wooo, glad you don't think it looks like ass.

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That is a crazy mixture! the finish is beautiful in the right light, Good work
It most certainly is. Can't say I've ever seen something similar.

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Mass produce it NAO cause I want one

Thats very original, i'd never get rid of it. It looks beautiful. How does it sound though?
Sounds pretty damn good. Like I said, add a bit of reverb, and it's great! And no, I'm never getting rid of it, however I might rebuild it in some other way... maybe.

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Scherzo you really need to get these things on the market, you have some real skill, I have seen the other 2 guitars you made and they are fantastic, I am guessing this one is like a solidish bodied, nylon stringed, electro acoustic? if that makes sense.
Thanks man, I love those 2 other axes to death. I might be making 1 or 2 for a friend and for a teacher, but other than that, nope. And yep, it's a solidbody, but it's chambered... like this:





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Actually, that top is magnificent!!
Glad someone liked it, because I'm still undecided about it.

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Old 10-17-2011, 08:31 AM   #9
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Stunning.

Absolutely staggering work - my favourite nylon string to date

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honeybadger claw is win
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Incredible guitar. Followed the build thread religiously because I thought it was such a cool idea. Turned out amazing.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:32 PM   #12
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I've always wondered with fanned frets, if you bend a string does it sound weird on certain frets because of the angle as the fret goes, like does the pitch not rise because the fret is moving "backwards"? Anywho, It is a fascinating concept. Definitely want to see more pics. I think the finish turned out amazing, but I'm 2000 miles away and its kind of hard to tell from here.

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Firstly - I think the finish looks damn cool! It almost looks like there is a silhouette of an acoustic guitar.... as though one is trying to escape!

Second - really awesome concept and amazing construction. Want video clips!

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i agree, you've got some fantastic skill at this. it looks great.

i wouldn't even have noticed there was something wrong with the top unless you had said something; i think it looks really great
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That guitar isnt "me" at all ... Its awesome!
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That thing is ridiculous awesome
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I have never seen anything like this before!

Dude this is some new stuff to me, looks like an alien hive!
did you string it with all nylon strings or just the thinnest of them?


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Old 10-17-2011, 02:26 PM   #18
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A few mor pics!!







Groupshot of my 3 builds:

Is this... guitar?
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Old 10-17-2011, 02:28 PM   #19
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Clips. Of all the guitars. Video. Nao.
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damn that's innovative
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Old 10-17-2011, 04:24 PM   #21
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Stunning.

Absolutely staggering work - my favourite nylon string to date
Thanks man. Mine continues being my grand dad's BRW guitar that I'm still hunting down. This is definately 2nd after that.

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honeybadger claw is win
obviously it's not a honeybadger claw, but I find it funny. It actually has no nut atm, and it will probably have to wait a while, until I finish my exams.

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Incredible guitar. Followed the build thread religiously because I thought it was such a cool idea. Turned out amazing.
Thanks dude. I won't lie, it was a challenging build, and I had a lot of fun in the process.

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I've always wondered with fanned frets, if you bend a string does it sound weird on certain frets because of the angle as the fret goes, like does the pitch not rise because the fret is moving "backwards"? Anywho, It is a fascinating concept. Definitely want to see more pics. I think the finish turned out amazing, but I'm 2000 miles away and its kind of hard to tell from here.
Can't really comment on the pitch when bending part, since you really don't bend nylon strings... Glad you liked the axe.

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Firstly - I think the finish looks damn cool! It almost looks like there is a silhouette of an acoustic guitar.... as though one is trying to escape!

Second - really awesome concept and amazing construction. Want video clips!
Thanks a ton! Clips shall wait though.

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i agree, you've got some fantastic skill at this. it looks great.

i wouldn't even have noticed there was something wrong with the top unless you had said something; i think it looks really great
I'm starting to like the top better. It's certainly different enough for a different enough guitar.

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You know, this is the second axe I've built because of one of your threads. I'm not opening your threads anymore.

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I have never seen anything like this before!

Dude this is some new stuff to me, looks like an alien hive!
did you string it with all nylon strings or just the thinnest of them?
It certainly looks strange. Notes about the chambering: There are more, and smaller chambers on the treble side thatn on the bass side, and they are all in a 1.61803 proportion within each chamber, and in relation to the next chamber. Does that have an effect? can't honestly say.

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Clips. Of all the guitars. Video. Nao.
Sorry to dissapoint, but a video will have to wait for several reasons. I need to make a nut. I need to replace the low E string saddle. Action is not setup yet (just look at string height in the last pic), and finally, I'm about to start exams.

Doesn't mean It's not getting any play time though.

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damn that's innovative
It's pretty different, that's for sure.

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Old 10-17-2011, 04:47 PM   #22
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Honey badger claw!
But even with that monkey cut top, it still looks damn good. I'm uber jealous now, shame about that ghost saddle though.

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Old 10-17-2011, 05:46 PM   #23
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Send it my way Scherzo, I'll show it some lovin.

You're about to start exams? What exactly does that mean down there? I have AT LEAST one exam every week, usually two, sometimes four, between here and December. Do you mean like final exams? If so, how are your semesters divided?
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looks good dude, but why no truss rod? That is a recipe for disaster.

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Old 10-17-2011, 05:54 PM   #25
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looks good dude, but why no truss rod? That is a recipe for disaster.
Do nylon string classicals ever have truss rods? I know mine doesn't.

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